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| 787991 | 2009-07-02 11:31:00 | WHAT!!! $250 You must be a company to even remotely use that much a month. Because thats insain! | Tuneznz (13203) | ||
| 787992 | 2009-07-02 13:29:00 | hhmm, how much data do you go through a month? I'd say its a cheap way to get a large amount of data (60gb+). No doubt its a *very* cheap way of doing that. I go through 40GB a month. Thing is you then get a ton of people complaining "Oh man, YouTube is slow, browsing isnt very fast during peak times either, I can't listen to internet radio, VoIP calls just don't work, same for Skype, and don't even think about video-calls over MSN", and they'll sign up unsuspecting people who simply just don't know any better, because it's an easy sales pitch to do. Clearnet... I am of the belief they are the only company that doesn't buy its internet through telecom (self imports) Naked DSL is available from Vodafone / iHug (RED Network), Orcon (The Orcon+ Network), TelstraClear (Don't believe they have a special name for it) and sometimes Xnet, depending on your plan / area and a few other things. Just to name a few ;) Those all offer ADSL2+ on their "own" network, thanks to LLU. Generally if you sign up on one of those you get better speeds, more reliable international AND national throughput, lower latency and less (if any) network jitter. I'm unsure about the likes of Cable / Fibre connections, don't deal with them enough myself to be honest. Have been thinking of switching to Adventure or even switch to Naked DSL and VOIP. Haven't heard of anyone yet in the region who has been on an internet only plan. I'm unsure of any ISP's who offer Naked in the Otago region, but I can safely say that as an Orcon customer on ADSL2+, there has never been a better ISP in terms of their line quality. Just don't bother with their helpdesk, it blows almost as bad as Xnet's... I think this issue has more to do with them using telecom's lines in my area. Bingo! Well close, generally Telecom oversubscribe their local exchanges pretty badly (Read: really badly!). There's too many people sharing a too small connection, and then shaping on YouTube etc happens, P2P, International traffic .. latency / pings starts getting higher, network jitter hits the roof... The list goes on :( Generally the likes of Orcon / Ihug, and even (where using their own network) TelstraClear have undeniably better ping times, anywhere, they're more reliable across the board in terms of national / international traffic throughput, and you don't get a crappy connection at peak times of the day. I work in VoIP, its super-sensitive to both high latency and jitter (The fluxuation in times from one ping to the next), I've seen a *lot* of really crappy connections, and seen some insanely awesome ones too. My parents, and a friend from Church who both live within 300m of the local Exchange are prime examples: With Xnet my parents would sync at the max line speed of ADSL1 (Coz thats the plan they were on, 128k upload, full down). Speedtest.net would frequently come back with 110KB/sec download speeds. This was consistent mostly, but a little better during the day. At night, don't even think about doing a VoIP call, ping times were all over the show, sometimes at 50ms, spiking up to 100ms the next, back down after that to 60 ... Switched to an Unbundled ISP plan (Orcons Silver+) and they now sync at 16,000kbps and achieve speeds on speedtest.net of around 1.6MB/sec (Yes, MegaBYTES). Downloading from international sites, they can easily max out their connection at that speed also, and its reliable, day in, day out, 24/7. Man I can go on a lot when I get going about a subject I'm passionate about ;) </ranting> |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 787993 | 2009-07-02 14:36:00 | hhmm, how much data do you go through a month? I'd say its a cheap way to get a large amount of data (60gb+). I notice on my connection it is fast during the day and slows noticably during peak hours (4 till midnight), so they already throttle the unlimited go large plans. They are not throttling it as it is the contention ratio that is doing that. NZ Telecom = 1 / 148 UK = 1 / 50 |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 787994 | 2009-07-02 17:49:00 | WHAT!!! $250 You must be a company to even remotely use that much a month. Because thats insain! He runs an internet cafe, so yes :). |
Erayd (23) | ||
| 787995 | 2009-07-02 20:59:00 | Makes scene. | Tuneznz (13203) | ||
| 787996 | 2009-07-02 23:39:00 | Why pay $60 and get dial-up speed. If Go Large is anything to go by, it is far above dial up. Last night I did a speed test, ranged between 50 and 180kb/s international. On high speed sites, the suffocating 128k upload gets saturated. I think that happens at around 644kb/s. Still, not bad speeds considering theres unlimited. No doubt its a *very* cheap way of doing that. I go through 40GB a month. Thing is you then get a ton of people complaining "Oh man, YouTube is slow, browsing isnt very fast during peak times either, I can't listen to internet radio, VoIP calls just don't work, same for Skype, and don't even think about video-calls over MSN", and they'll sign up unsuspecting people who simply just don't know any better, because it's an easy sales pitch to do. Youtube on my connection is horribly slow, but webcam chat and skype works without a hitch. If they keep the same service as Go Large, I think people who know they'll need it will appreciate it. People who won't know about it wont. Obviously it will be useless for people who don't go through a lot of data, but the best plan for those who do. |
utopian201 (6245) | ||
| 787997 | 2009-07-03 02:44:00 | I often do about 170GB a month, I would hate to do it at dial up speeds. it would be nice if we could have a bit of each... 1Mbit and unlimited data. but the way they have mad this plan they can give you less than dial up speed and you cant touch them. |
robsonde (120) | ||
| 787998 | 2009-07-03 03:39:00 | Exactly - the only difference between this and Go Large is they tell you up front that it's going to be horrible a lot of the time, instead of saying it's unleashed and unlimited. Go Large was kind of like unleashing a turtle. It really didn't give a flying **** about it. |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 787999 | 2009-07-03 03:40:00 | Bingo! Well close, generally Telecom oversubscribe their local exchanges pretty badly (Read: really badly!). There's too many people sharing a too small connection, and then shaping on YouTube etc happens, P2P, International traffic .. latency / pings starts getting higher, network jitter hits the roof... The list goes on :( Generally the likes of Orcon / Ihug, and even (where using their own network) TelstraClear have undeniably better ping times, anywhere, they're more reliable across the board in terms of national / international traffic throughput, and you don't get a crappy connection at peak times of the day. We are situated less than 100m from the exchange, even for telecom this is a new low. Heres a few speedtests i just did. www.speedtest.net (http://www.speedtest.net) ~ REALLY GOOD www.speedtest.net (http://www.speedtest.net) ~ REALLY GOOD www.speedtest.net (http://www.speedtest.net) ~ GOOD. Surprisingly these are really good, I suppose it was because I was about to have a rant. Murphy's law. |
PCT Joe (15018) | ||
| 788000 | 2009-07-03 04:46:00 | Conspiracy theory follows: Speed tests need to be run via an USA website to give a realistic result ????? It would be possible for telecoms throttling to allow full speed on speedtest sites and throttle most other downloads. What I used to see is the first (say) 5M of a large download came down pretty fast & then get throttled for the rest. This would allow web sites to load fast, but allow throttling on big downloads Now its just usually all really slow after 5pm, super fast during the day if Im at home. |
sroby (11519) | ||
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