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| Thread ID: 87030 | 2008-02-05 05:14:00 | More reasons to dislike Michael Cullen | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 637653 | 2008-02-05 22:02:00 | The Socialist way is to tax high and provide amazing benefits to it's citizens. High class health systems, good superannuation, and well oiled infrastructure. Given that NZ has none of these I'd A) question whether we are socialist, and B) wonder if in fact taxes should be higher. Low taxes only end up benefitting the rich. Why should we care about them becoming even richer? |
Thebananamonkey (7741) | ||
| 637654 | 2008-02-05 22:15:00 | As politicians go... I rather like the guy. A vote for Dr Michael Cullen. :thumbs: Admitting that says something,I won't say what. Whenever I read the monkey's talk of such matters,I look around for nearest wall,to bang head on. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 637655 | 2008-02-05 22:56:00 | We used to be a Socialist type country, now we are American pawns. | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 637656 | 2008-02-05 23:57:00 | "But those of us who LISTEN to parliament on radio" I'd rather rip out my toenails | wotz (335) | ||
| 637657 | 2008-02-06 00:17:00 | Actually I like Cullen too. For a history professor he has grasped economics very well. He is witty and calm. Ok, I don't agree with his government's policies but I can understand them. The high interest rates and high exchange rate is not government policy but they contribute through public sector spending which has an inflationary aspect. Ironically while I do think we need tax cuts, that is inflationary too and interest rates will remain high. The other irony is that all of this is happening because at last NZ is doing well as an economy. As for taxing the rich, what people really mean is tax everyone else but not me...... Like it or not, we must allow individuals to build wealth because they start businesses and create work. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 637658 | 2008-02-06 00:42:00 | We used to be a Socialist type country, now we are American pawns. When I arrived in socialist times,one couldn't buy Nescafe,used to smuggle it in from Australia,ah yes Zqwert,those were the days. Let us remember,a man is what he does,all this talk of liking Cullen is beside the point, it's his policies that we are on about. This idea that the likes of him and Brown in England,somehow make us all better off by interfering is beyond me. Believe me,get out of the way,let us keep the money we earn and you would know what progress is. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 637659 | 2008-02-06 01:09:00 | Cicero, you'll just go on more overseas holidays and build more ocean going racing yachts. | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 637660 | 2008-02-06 01:11:00 | Just make sure said wall is suitably hard. Block/Concrete should do ok. But if you look at the socialist countries around closest to NZ's model, then you see some of the highest figures for quality of life in the world. People pay an arm and a leg in taxes, but they get every cent back in amazing services. We could go by the US model though and just pay ridiculous fees for schooling that actually covers the basics, and die in our hundreds for lack of basic medical treatment. Low taxes are great there aren't they? And their rehabilitation of prisoners is second to none. That's a great idea cicero. Lets lower taxes, the govt does a good enough job with the squillions they have. Don't need any more. And while we're at it. Lets not subsidise universities. Who needs education? |
Thebananamonkey (7741) | ||
| 637661 | 2008-02-06 01:16:00 | Just make sure said wall is suitably hard. Block/Concrete should do ok. But if you look at the socialist countries around closest to NZ's model, then you see some of the highest figures for quality of life in the world. People pay an arm and a leg in taxes, but they get every cent back in amazing services. We could go by the US model though and just pay ridiculous fees for schooling that actually covers the basics, and die in our hundreds for lack of basic medical treatment. Low taxes are great there aren't they? And their rehabilitation of prisoners is second to none. That's a great idea cicero. Lets lower taxes, the govt does a good enough job with the squillions they have. Don't need any more. And while we're at it. Lets not subsidise universities. Who needs education? Could I suggest happiness would be defined as you and Zqwert pm'ing each other all day,see who can make the other smile the most. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 637662 | 2008-02-06 03:03:00 | The problem we have with politicians, and socialist politicians in particular, is that none of them can come to terms with the concept that the government has no money - its the peoples' money, and as such what gives any government the right to spend it unless it is for the benefit of the people or the nation as a whole. The politicians have a fiduciary duty to the people of the country to ensure their taxes are spent in a responsible manner - far to many of them fall far short of what is acceptable in this responsibility. Expenditure by politicians aimed at keeping themselves in power, or currying favour with a particular pressure group, is merely bribing people with their own money - unfortunately too few people appear to be smart enough to recognise this when it is happening. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
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