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| Thread ID: 101154 | 2009-07-03 05:46:00 | Backup Discussion | linw (53) | Press F1 |
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| 788456 | 2009-07-03 11:14:00 | You can use Windows backup with caveats. I remember upgrading my O/S at one time and had a full backup from the previous O/S. So did the format and clean install only to discover that I could not restore the data as Microsoft had changed the format. So re-install the previous O/S and restore data. Then use a different application to backup data and clean install the new O/S again then install the application I used for backup and restore the backup. All OK but just took extra time. Then you can also have problems with third party solutions like Nero that worked under one O/S but was not compatible with the next O/S. Oh. Blam6 will give you a drive so you do not need to pay for it anyway. Or maybe he sells the storage for backup. I do not know. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 788457 | 2009-07-03 11:50:00 | I've lost count of the number of These external Drives (www.ascent.co.nz) I have sold as backup devices, they come in an array of various sizes, have their own backup software, or you can use third party software, such as sysnctoy, handy Backup (http://www.handybackup.com/) or Numerous other backup software. I often advise to use handy Back up as a daily option, simply because unlike many other backup software programs, it DOESN'T back the data up in its own format, meaning it does have the options to compress in a zipped file with different compression ratios, AND if you only want to extract 1 file you can, as well as the files can be read on any other PC. Handy Backup also has plugins to do email as well. One Company/office I service here in Wainui - they have 7 PC's doing daily document backups over the LAN to one of the above drives connected to the reception PC. Handy backup is on the reception PC, and grabs the data from the other 6 PC's at 4.00PM. Its set to auto remove after a week, 1 day at a time. At the end of the day the receptionist simply unplugs the drive and takes it home (off site) plugs it back in the following day. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 788458 | 2009-07-03 22:57:00 | Thanks, all, for your thoughtful replies . The consensus seems to be that ext HDD is the way to go over CD/DVD/flash drive and I am inclined that way myself but still have an open mind on this . WT, the 2 . 5" drives certainly win from a portability point of view . Ideal in the office situation you describe . I also have a site with about 11 PCs in two rooms that could well look at your solution . I will download a trial of Handy Backup and have a good look at it . blam, will also look up that toucan sware you mentioned . Only one client asked for backup - that's the problem, isn't it! This is the problem/solution I am trying to address . There is clearly more than one way of skinning this cat so I will keep working on it! Cheers and thanks again for input . |
linw (53) | ||
| 788459 | 2009-07-04 06:36:00 | Recently at my college the server's hdd had a meltdown, the main teacher file database (10 HDD's in raid 0) had 2 HDD collapse on them, the first back up system then kicked in and 3 HDD died, the second system hopped in and it too died with 4 HDD's giving way. A lot of work was lost, some upto 15 years of work, All where told don't worry about loosing your data, its safe we have 2 backups. The problem, over each array they had mixed batch's of hdd's and on the 1st and 2nd backup they to held 3 different batch's of hdd's, so the issue was because of the mix of batch's of hdd's, so all of the batch 0's (assumed name) hdd dropped out at the same time (systematic/over use error) and instead of keeping individual batch's to each array and having a second and third batch of hdd's for the 2 backup array's like they should have. Issue could have been solved by having a daily backup to a external data server with GOOD backup raid 1 set up. |
Tuneznz (13203) | ||
| 788460 | 2009-07-04 11:55:00 | Never Never rely on all eggs in one basket! It's not a backup when the data doesn't leave the server hardware. |
berryb (99) | ||
| 788461 | 2009-07-04 12:20:00 | Thats one VERY important rule about backups - no good if they dont work. ALWAYS have them on another source. What you really need to do is regularly test them to make sure they do. Heres a Question: Every one here that does backups --- When was the last time they were tested ? I'll be the first -- Tested 3 days ago. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 788462 | 2009-07-04 14:27:00 | I personally run a very tight ship with my computer, I have currently 50 or so gb of free space all the data I hold is incumbent and I would be angry if i was to loose it, but i hold most if not all of my installs on a second drive in my computer, and the music is backed up. | Tuneznz (13203) | ||
| 788463 | 2009-07-04 22:11:00 | 2 months ago when I had trouble removing win 7 from this machine, I know that backup worked just fine | gary67 (56) | ||
| 788464 | 2009-07-04 22:55:00 | But we don't want to REALLY test our backups in case they put trash over our currently working systems!! It needs a degree of sophistication to test backups that can't threaten current data . How do you do your test WT? |
linw (53) | ||
| 788465 | 2009-07-14 18:13:00 | See my thread (pressf1.pcworld.co.nz) from yesterday I have just set up my spare pc running XP home with it's third HDD and am in the process of setting up weekly full backups using true image to it and also daily incremental backups daily, unfortunately offsite backups are not really possible for us as I work in the building trade and SWMBO doesn't work Incremental backups must be avoided at all costs. I believe is better to use a Full (Normal) and differentials. |
cubanomx (15064) | ||
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