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Thread ID: 87356	2008-02-18 05:51:00	Are New Zealanders Bad Drivers?	legod (4626)	PC World Chat

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641465	2008-02-20 09:40:00	I don't do it all the time - just when the other car is crazy - its easy to tell. And hey, if they are crazy or having a bad day or if that is just how they are like, why should we be nice and just put up with them. Sometimes I am glad I do not have my own car. In 13yrs not one parking ticket or speeding fine or pulled over. Its just so conv just to get the bus even if I do live in the suburbs. The other day I went out using someone's car, going like 50 so I swapped lanes since the store was a right turn. Earlier at traffic lights this car didn't look and just pulled out and I had to slam on the breaks. Didn't indicate he saw he coming like after he got into my lane and didn't do anything he just took up 2 lanes and stood there until I came to a full stop. Or those cars who don't indicate and just overtake you when you are doing 48 or 49 - well ok I am am 1 km going too slow :rolleyes: and they don't indicate they just carve around - tailgate - other side of road - speed - carve back in. The van who gets right behind you and turn on his high beam when you are doing the max speed and he doesn't switch lanes he just sits there getting you to move out of his way. Well ok I was on the right lane but hey I was doing the max speed. Or is there a diff law to that - maybe a exemption rule or something that now and then case/case pple may be able to break the speed limit. Dunno why .. these cars will speed up to your bumper you can see them via the mirror and as they launch themselves right behind you and then I have no idea why they don't and just overtake you and finish the product. When you take a turn, they then toot at you. The ones that really piss me off is if he is with his girlfriend. They overtake you, then they both look at you and laugh.	Nomad (952)
641466	2008-02-20 22:05:00	talking about indicators... its interesting that with roundabouts not everyone indicates properly with roundabouts. You should indicate right, then when you are near where you want to get out, indicate left BEFORE you start to go into that road, or something like that. Everyday I see people who clearly have the attitude that if they're going straight through a roundabout, they don't need to indicate. That's the problem for us, because we see cars with no indicating, so we assume they'll head straight (from the opposite direction to us), so we start to drive into the roundabout, but no. They are actually turning right, and not bothering to indicate at all!	caffy (2665)
641467	2008-02-20 22:22:00	talking about indicators... its interesting that with roundabouts not everyone indicates properly with roundabouts. You should indicate right, then when you are near where you want to get out, indicate left BEFORE you start to go into that road, or something like that. Everyday I see people who clearly have the attitude that if they're going straight through a roundabout, they don't need to indicate. That's the problem for us, because we see cars with no indicating, so we assume they'll head straight (from the opposite direction to us), so we start to drive into the roundabout, but no. They are actually turning right, and not bothering to indicate at all! i do hope that you aren't one of those idiots who misread a newspaper article and now indicate right to go straight through, thus causing traffic that could otherwise go to have to wait for the next gap (ie, decreasing flow through the intersection, causing a big uneccessary queue) read your road code to turn right, indicate right and then indicate left at your exit so we all know what you're doing to go straight, indicate at your exit - indicating right is often trickey in a small intersection and will hold up traffic. maybe at a large one like panmure with 5 or 6 roads it becomes practical to go left, indicate left to do circles, keep indicating right and watch for confused people who aren't looking for a left indicator, assume you are turning right and try to pull out infront of you DO NOT indicate right only, and then turn left or go straight or other drivers will have a silent scream in their cars and do not simply not indicate, and definitely do not indicate left, to make a right turn (nearly got knocked off my bike when someone did that does anyone else have issue with gardens on roundabouts making the whole thing blind? i'm not sure if it's a stupid decision or a means to increase traffic flow...	motorbyclist (188)
641468	2008-02-20 22:28:00	I don't do it all the time - just when the other car is crazy - its easy to tell. And hey, if they are crazy or having a bad day or if that is just how they are like, why should we be nice and just put up with them. oh, right yeah i know what you mean with that one i know whenever i come up behind a car tailgating another i just put my lights on high beam, and if that fails i ride up their ass for a hundred metres. they usually get the point and back off, but sometimes i give up before there's an accident and you get tailgaters tailgating no-matter how fast you're going. i'm usually 5-20 over the limit and still get them. just move left and let them pass. the toot is usually a friendly "thankyou" one sometimes i think they just don't realise how close they are, and what it's like for the driver infront and personally, i can't stand the bus, not that it's practical from my location anyway :2cents:	motorbyclist (188)
641469	2008-02-20 22:56:00	i do hope that you aren't one of those idiots who misread a newspaper article and now indicate right to go straight through, thus causing traffic that could otherwise go to have to wait for the next gap (ie, decreasing flow through the intersection, causing a big uneccessary queue) read your road code to turn right, indicate right and then indicate left at your exit so we all know what you're doing to go straight, indicate at your exit - indicating right is often trickey in a small intersection and will hold up traffic . maybe at a large one like panmure with 5 or 6 roads it becomes practical to go left, indicate left to do circles, keep indicating right and watch for confused people who aren't looking for a left indicator, assume you are turning right and try to pull out infront of you DO NOT indicate right only, and then turn left or go straight or other drivers will have a silent scream in their cars and do not simply not indicate, and definitely do not indicate left, to make a right turn (nearly got knocked off my bike when someone did that does anyone else have issue with gardens on roundabouts making the whole thing blind? i'm not sure if it's a stupid decision or a means to increase traffic flow . . . What I do if I'm going straight through (particularly at this big roundabout near my place with 5 roads) is indicate right then indicate left before the exit . I know I know I shouldn't indicate right, but I find that it sometimes stops the people coming into the roundabout from my left getting confused . If I don't indicate, sometimes they think i'm turning left (because not everyone indicates to turn left!) and they'll pull out in front of me (there's been a few close calls) . Seriously, at some roundabouts you can't always judge if the car coming towards you is going to go straight pass you, or going to turn into the exit you're coming out of .	caffy (2665)
641470	2008-02-20 23:04:00	re-read my post i did say that at large roundabouts it becomes practical to indicate right, usually because you are infact turning right but everywhere else with just 4 roads and a small island it's downright stupid	motorbyclist (188)
641471	2008-02-20 23:07:00	If you are going 'straight' through a roundabout: * don't signal as you come up to the roundabout * signal left as you pass the exit before the one you wish to take. At some small roundabouts it may not be possible to give three seconds warning, but it is courteous to give as much indication as you can. (www.landtransport.govt.nz) and alot of drivers need to read this, (www.landtransport.govt.nz) and remember you can get a ticket for not following this rule (fine and 25 demerit points)	motorbyclist (188)
641472	2008-02-20 23:09:00	As regards taigaiting, I read an article in an American magazine some years ago as to how to get them off your bumper. The trick was to turn on your sidelights briefly and the guy behind thought you were braking and would pull back. The writer of the article (an off duty policeman) said it could have some drawbacks unless you were pretty well endowed in the muscle department. Try it too many times with a loony on your tail and they would suss you out, overtake, stop you and give you a hiding. Truckies in particular can see what you are up to. This particular off duty cop waited till the tailgaiter pulled in front, waited till he came up to the car then pushed open the door, dropping said loony in a heap. The tailgater was charged with multiple driving offences. I have tried this trick a few time and it works-but never too often with a truckie!	Gordon62 (11771)
641473	2008-02-20 23:29:00	If you are looking for a thread that will bring out the latent NEGATIVE in people, start a thread about New Zealanders being bad drivers.	Roscoe (6288)
641474	2008-02-20 23:41:00	re-read my post i did say that at large roundabouts it becomes practical to indicate right, usually because you are infact turning right but everywhere else with just 4 roads and a small island it's downright stupidHear! Hear! :thumbs:	johcar (6283)
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