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| Thread ID: 87356 | 2008-02-18 05:51:00 | Are New Zealanders Bad Drivers? | legod (4626) | PC World Chat |
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| 641435 | 2008-02-18 23:40:00 | Some people drive... OKish, some people look like they got their license from a cereal box. In Christchurch, there's a corner, on colombo st and st asaph. Lots of buses turn right from st asaph onto colombo. So, to help with turning buses, the council took the right-turning lane on colombo back a few metres. That's all good, until someone ignores the yellow X's all over the road, and as a result, no buses can turn around the corner. Once I watched this happen, and some idiot pulled in, this bus goes to turn, can't, and stops in the middle of the intersection. This idiot make NO ATTEMPT to reverse for three minutes, and even though there's a car behind them (which had the sense to keep a couple of metres behind to let the moron reverse), when they do, it's no more than 30cm's a go. Eventually the bus made it past without hitting the moron (if I was the bus driver I woulda taken them OUT! Crash! Bang! Scrape! Insurance!). Idiots who refuse to obey the road rules really should be punished with several bricks to the and their car. I wanted to walk up to their car, open the door, and yell "LEARN HOW TO DRIVE YOU ****ING *******! PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE WHAT"S WRONG WITH NEW ZEALAND! **** YOU!!" | ubergeek85 (131) | ||
| 641436 | 2008-02-19 00:03:00 | Our roads have improved at an appropriate rate to the growing increase of cars. The huge growth of cars on the roads have led to a lot of driver frustration at other drivers and in turn leads a lot to dumb things and take ever increasing risks. Younger generations of drivers accept these dumb things as the norm and then take these dumb things even further. If something is not done soon to change the younger drivers driving habits and with the constant increase of cars on the roads then it can only get worse. I grew up in the country, was driving at 8 mainly off road, I got my license the day I was 15 (over 40 years ago). At that time New Zealand had a lot of gravel roads, it was only mainly the main roads that were sealed and not as wide as they are today. I have since driven Trucks and Buses in over 40 Countries on 5 continents and the current NZ Drivers are fairly bad compared to most I have met. The author of the original article "Allan Dick" I used to be in the Otago Sports Car club with him in the 1960's/70's, he knows cars and I think his opinion is correct. |
Bantu (52) | ||
| 641437 | 2008-02-19 00:05:00 | The secwratterusond lot you mention are thinking the exact thing you say in your first comment. wratterus, I can't always tell in advance if the person behind me even wants to pass the person I want to pass. I don't sit at 5k above the person I'm passing while passing - those people are genuinely annoying. I'm talking about when I'm passing someone as quickly as possible (to allow more people to get past and not hold things up), and they're just tailgating me for fun at 140k. The person I was specifically thinking of was just an idiot in general - really aggressive passing all the time, only to drive slower than the traffic they just passed. He wasn't tailgating me until I was in the right lane accelerating. Now I agree that you can't blame the roads, but most bad driving happens because people only have one lane to share and are always trying to get past each other. |
george12 (7) | ||
| 641438 | 2008-02-19 00:06:00 | quite a few people mention that our roads are very narrow. These "quite a few people" have obviously not driven in The Republic of Ireland! The road is narrow (but not considered so by the natives) when you can stand in the middle of the road with arms outstretched and touch both sides! When I suggested that a road such as that may be one way they said, increduously, "Don't be silly!":waughh: Some of these roads, while they do not qualify as major roads, are not minor roads. The only place you will see a motorway is the one approaching Belfast. But if you really want to see "crazy" drive around Ireland when the farmers have just baled their hay. The many tractors are seen pulling a large trailer of hay bales at 5kph and in many cases difficult to pass because of the narrow and/or windy road. You might think that they should pull over, but where? They do not have a metal - or any - shoulder so there is nowhere for them to go, so you endure it. When you are finally able to pass you will see that the farmer does not acknowledge you or your presence in any way but continues along his nonchalant way.:illogical Drive in a few other countries besides little NZ and you will see that, compared with others, we are not that bad. Some of the above stories could have happened anywhere. |
Roscoe (6288) | ||
| 641439 | 2008-02-19 01:06:00 | I attribute a number of the issues to bad rules leading to bad habits and impatient drivers - eg undertaking | englandXrugbyworldchamps (12744) | ||
| 641440 | 2008-02-19 02:15:00 | Anyone ever tried passing a logging truck going south from Gisborne? If you have I would like to know how you actually did it. Having one a metre from your back bumper can also be pretty scary. It took me a few corners to work out why there were all these sort of skipping skid marks at the start of each corner until I actually saw one of these trucks in action. They simply brake hard going into a corner, lock up the rear brakes, apply a bit of opposite lock and let the truck literally skip round the corners then accelerate hard out of the corner. When they get on your bumper they are so intimidating that your first reaction is to try and slow down to let the b*****s pass, the trick is to find a place to pull over! Even then you don't even get a "thank you" toot. By the way these trucks going south are unladen most of the time-thank heaven! |
Gordon62 (11771) | ||
| 641441 | 2008-02-19 02:28:00 | Anyone ever tried passing a logging truck going south from Gisborne? If you have I would like to know how you actually did it. Having one a metre from your back bumper can also be pretty scary. It took me a few corners to work out why there were all these sort of skipping skid marks at the start of each corner until I actually saw one of these trucks in action. They simply brake hard going into a corner, lock up the rear brakes, apply a bit of opposite lock and let the truck literally skip round the corners then accelerate hard out of the corner. When they get on your bumper they are so intimidating that your first reaction is to try and slow down to let the b*****s pass, the trick is to find a place to pull over! Even then you don't even get a "thank you" toot. By the way these trucks going south are unladen most of the time-thank heaven! They gotta make their money! But yes, I agree. Have seen that myself, rather disconcerting. |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 641442 | 2008-02-19 02:39:00 | These "quite a few people" have obviously not driven in The Republic of Ireland! ........ quite true, i think most where from USA. i doubt there cars would even fit on some of europes roads LOL Anyone ever tried passing a logging truck going south from Gisborne? If you have I would like to know how you actually did it. Having one a metre from your back bumper can also be pretty scary. its been a bit like that between auck and whangrai. they did a sting on the trucks and gave them a full check over. something like 70% failed ! the old "push em along" trick really needs to be stamped out majorly. Our roads have improved at an appropriate rate to the growing increase of cars. Younger generations of drivers accept these dumb things as the norm and then take these dumb things even further. If something is not done soon to change the younger drivers driving habits and with the constant increase of cars on the roads then it can only get worse. roads have improved but there is still way to many bonehead patch em up jobs. they go to great lengths to do a half arsed job which ends up being replaced at even more expence. they need to learn to do the job properly the first time. young drivers are not always to blame. (and no i'm not a young driver any more). a lot of drivers still drive like its 1960. most of the younger drivers i see around drive far far better than their parents. if they drove as badly as their parents there would be double amount of peole killed. a lot of older drivers have bad habbits and they have done no training. throw in quaduble the traffic flow and higher spec cars its no wonder they have the highest crash rate. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 641443 | 2008-02-19 02:39:00 | I wanted to walk up to their car, open the door, and yell "LEARN HOW TO DRIVE YOU ****ING *******! PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE WHAT"S WRONG WITH NEW ZEALAND! **** YOU!!" I don't know what's worse - bad drivers, or road rage. Sure, most the time bad drivers cause road rage, but then there's a good number of stuck up and impatient people. They may not be classed as bad drivers, but they can cause an accident just as easily. |
--Wolf-- (128) | ||
| 641444 | 2008-02-19 04:11:00 | I attribute a number of the issues to bad rules leading to bad habits and impatient drivers - eg undertaking (sorry i didn't see that post before) whats wrong with undertaking? you know where every one is on the road and you look when ever changing lane so how can undertaking be a problem ? |
tweak'e (69) | ||
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