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Thread ID: 87383	2008-02-19 05:38:00	uni entry requirements	mabix (10146)	PC World Chat

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641942	2008-02-19 09:37:00	Also, getting a certificate that is signed by an MP at prizegiving at school for outstanding work effort helps. (And no! It was not me :dogeye: ) No, not really. The university only gets to see your marks which are sent straight to them through either NZQA or CIE or whatever. You can't send them anything else unless applying for a scholarship. You might be thinking of applying to a US college where all this is obligatory pretty much.	beeswax34 (63)
641943	2008-02-19 10:05:00	I personally know of several cases of students doing very well in scholarship exams, finding first year studies a breeze as the subject matter was substantially covered in the last year at school while preparing for scholarship. As a consequence they did minimal work in year 1 at University and then they crashed out in year two because they had failed to develop good work habits. People who are self starters will do well, students who need kick starting will frequently crash and burn. It never ceased to amaze me that so many students were rushing to complete assignments at the last minute, when they had the material and the due date for over a fortnight, frequently longer. To succeed at University studies, one does not need to be exceptionally bright, what is needed are good work habits, good preparation, recapping on lecture content as a daily and weekly discipline, good time management. These are a recipe for guaranteed success.	KenESmith (6287)
641944	2008-02-19 10:21:00	To further comment on Ken's above post, I also know that doing this foundation course at Auckland Uni is a great thing for me. While I do feel unfortunate to not be able to get in my undergraduate course this year, I can see the bright side to it. Having lived in NZ for 8 years, what used to be a studying robot became a couch potato with a chilled out attitude. God, I remember back in my country EVERY SINGLE DAY was piled with at least 3 hours of homework. Then there were official tests every 2-3 days, sometimes without any warning. Fail any of them, and it is reflected in your end of year result. There, they pretty much marry you to your teachers and textbooks. Then I came to NZ. No offence, but you lot were a bunch of lazy kids. I was learning all about complex fractions and yr10 algebra in Indonesia when I was put in as yr5 student at primary school in NZ, where they were still teaching basic adding and subtractions. Due to my outstanding maths at that level, I was put up a year. Consequently, however, I became too lazy and that bad habit has kinda stuck with me until now. I know I need a good kicking up the ass, and I believe that foundation course will kick it with a steel-tipped boot. Just what I need.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
641945	2008-02-19 11:00:00	I got to admit, at 6th form Math and Engrish. I did badly at those classes. I got enough to get into MIT just. But at my current job, maths and memory are some things I use a lot which keeps me on my feet.	bob_doe_nz (92)
641946	2008-02-19 11:20:00	I personally know of several cases of students doing very well in scholarship exams, finding first year studies a breeze as the subject matter was substantially covered in the last year at school while preparing for scholarship. As a consequence they did minimal work in year 1 at University and then they crashed out in year two because they had failed to develop good work habits. Story of my life.	roddy_boy (4115)
641947	2008-02-19 12:04:00	God, I remember back in my country EVERY SINGLE DAY was piled with at least 3 hours of homework. Then there were official tests every 2-3 days, sometimes without any warning. Fail any of them, and it is reflected in your end of year result. There, they pretty much marry you to your teachers and textbooks. Then I came to NZ. No offence, but you lot were a bunch of lazy kids. I was learning all about complex fractions and yr10 algebra in Indonesia when I was put in as yr5 student at primary school in NZ, where they were still teaching basic adding and subtractions. Due to my outstanding maths at that level, I was put up a year. I have to agree. When I came over fro India, Intermediate completely f****d my work and study habits up. I have to say that it was the worst year of my life (I came at the start of Yr8) but thankfully school really really put the boot in. Ken, a lot of us do that, even the scholars and non-starters in just waiting till the last night before an assignment is due. I've never really seen anyone be too adversely affected by it. Its just what we do :lol:	beeswax34 (63)
641948	2008-02-19 12:06:00	To succeed at University studies, one does not need to be exceptionally bright, what is needed are good work habits, good preparation, recapping on lecture content as a daily and weekly discipline, good time management . These are a recipe for guaranteed success . Crap:eek: :waughh: :lol: You have to do ALL of those things???	beeswax34 (63)
641949	2008-02-20 02:25:00	Any student who meets the entry criteria for University should pass if they have good work habits - some students manage to cream their way through without too much effort - but they are not the rule - the idea is to pass well with good grades - not to scrape through - after all University should be considered preparation for the rest of your life - its up to the individual what they want to make of it.	KenESmith (6287)
641950	2008-02-20 03:42:00	age is not an issue, what you did in high school/prior qualifications will be important, but it varies from subject to subject. being a NZ born kiwi, i have noticed how asians come into the country, study hard for maybe a year, maybe longer if they have asian friends, but otherwise NZ gets it's teeth in and slows them down to our, frankly, retarded pace at school. what i did in my primary school maths (top class) had me sussed until trigonometry in 3rd form, which again i was doing ahead of schedule due to being in a top class safe to say, intermediate and high school taught me alot about slacking off and NCEA was good at teaching me to aim at passing bit by bit. it wasn't until half way through 7th form i decided to do engineering and found that the entry requirements were pretty high (merit average across calculus and physics) - at this point i was lucky to show up by lunchtime, parked in the teacher carpark, and was doing one subject just to talk with the girls and never did any work in the end i only barely scraped my way into engineering - had to fork out for a 2 week maths course for them to consider me too the university way of learning is frankly brilliant, and i know it would have done me much better getting grades for whole subjects at high school rather than already having my 80 credits to pass by mid-year - after my first test at uni, where i lost 10% of my grade for a paper, i quickly pulled finger and did the work. (another thing that helped me is that in high school i did all the sciences to keep my options open which helped ALOT - whereas alot of engineering students only did calculus and physics because that's all they "had" to do) this year is my second year of engineering, and i've gotten into the hardest specialisation to get into :D apparently, talking to the dean of engineering at the end of 1st year, they find alot of students with top level cambridge stuff actually crash and burn - possibly because while they were at their private school they were pushed to do the work rather than doing it themselves, possibly because they're used to things being given to them... whereas students like myself only got where i got because i knuckled down and did some work to get to my goal, so after scraping into uni i took off. but, obviously, it varies from person to person and subject to subject	motorbyclist (188)
641951	2008-02-20 09:42:00	apparently, talking to the dean of engineering at the end of 1st year, they find alot of students with top level cambridge stuff actually crash and burn - possibly because while they were at their private school they were pushed to do the work rather than doing it themselves, possibly because they're used to things being given to them... whereas students like myself only got where i got because i knuckled down and did some work to get to my goal, so after scraping into uni i took off. but, obviously, it varies from person to person and subject to subject Funny. because none of the Cambridge guys I know ever crashed. They all did engineering/biomed/med or healthsci. Also depends on the school of course.	beeswax34 (63)
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