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Thread ID: 87356 2008-02-18 05:51:00 Are New Zealanders Bad Drivers? legod (4626) PC World Chat
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641545 2008-02-22 19:08:00 You might come from backwater townships mate, but I am from the city, motorway are for traveling swiftly from town to town,

IN the biggest city in NZ motorways are full of cars doing 20km.

You know you may be a terrific driver, I have no idea, but you still share the road with everyone else and you can still be killed or injured by some other jerk driving like an idiot.
pctek (84)
641546 2008-02-23 00:31:00 . . . But I'm lucky enough to live within an hours walk of home . . . . An interesting, if confusing, mental picture . . . :D


. . . Autobahns are mostly restricted . And not everyone on the derestricted ones feel the need to drive at 200kph . Many choose to just stay at 100 . It's comfortable, and for the most part is fairly safe . Also a lot cheaper . . . .
This was not my experience when visiting Germany about 18 months ago . I didn't come across any restricted speed sections (we travelled from Frankfurt south, and then from Czech Republic back to Frankfurt - with a fair bit of distance done in Austria, Slovakia and Hungary - where the upper limit on motorways varies) . . .

We had a Peugeot 307 1 . 6 HDI (diesel), which would travel very comfortably at 160km/h at 5 . 5L/100km . Yes, it would get an even better mileage at 100km/h, but even at 150km/h, we were being overtaken by the tiny SMART cars (of the Kiwibank ad fame) . Interesting driving experience - you knew to stay in the slow lane, and if you had to overtake, you did so quickly and moved back into the slow lane again ASAP . Big BMWs, Mercedes, Ferraris, Porches, Saabs, Bentleys and other beautiful machines would appear in your rear vision mirror in the distance with their headlights on and be on your tail in seconds . Most travelling in excess of 200km/h . . .

The only times we had to slow down to more Kiwi-normal speeds, was approaching cities (traffic jams + we wanted to be able to see the turn-off we needed well in advance) or where we came across accidents being cleaned up (only two in 3500km / three weeks of driving) .

On steep hills, the Germans had built special lanes on the Autobahn for heavy trucks and forbade them from using the other lanes to overtake on those hills .


IN the biggest city in NZ motorways are full of cars doing 20km . . . .

There's a good reason for this: too many damn cars travelling at the same time, with no really viable alternative public transport .
johcar (6283)
641547 2008-02-23 03:18:00 Slow drivers aren't a hazard because they are going slow .

not in every case, infact not true at all .

ever gone around a blind corner at 70kph (was a reasonable speed) to find a driver (txting) doing less that 30kph? it's a hazard .

likewise having hundreds of cars bumper to bumper because the slowpoke infront wont pull over, is an accident waiting to happen

90 or 100kph is reasonable 80 or lower is frustrating - especially when you are running to a time schedule and that idiot doing 70-50kph is fast eating the time you allowed for such occurances (time is money here)


Hey are their any brave souls here who would tailgate people and constantly flash their headlights and toot the horn at them? :angry

Just today, this car was following me and the whole journey before it made a right turn had the full beam on . And this didn't mattered if it was in the quieter street or the main road with cars on both sides of road . I felt like thumping on the breaks and doing something . .


tooting and flashing? why not pull over? i know i've tooted and flashed someone before; when they stopped at an intersection i pulled up, knocked on the window and informed them that their van was losing a worrying amount of fluid onto the road . turned out a radiator hose had split .

had another one with a muffler half hanging off - he couldn't hear it scraping over his stereo:lol:
motorbyclist (188)
641548 2008-02-23 04:15:00 ever gone around a blind corner at 70kph (was a reasonable speed) to find a driver (txting) doing less that 30kph? it's a hazard.


Unfortunately for you the law regards travelling faster than you can stop in either the visible roadway or half the roadway depending on whether there are lanes as an offence :)
PaulD (232)
641549 2008-02-23 04:34:00 Unfortunately for you the law regards travelling faster than you can stop in either the visible roadway or half the roadway depending on whether there are lanes as an offence :)

yep - could've just as easily been a crash from another poor guy rear ending him, and then i wouldn't have been able to stop and actually been in an accident myself

but it does make a point about slow vehicles being hazards
(well in my mind anyway:lol:)
motorbyclist (188)
641550 2008-02-23 04:38:00 ever gone around a blind corner at 70kph (was a reasonable speed) to find a driver (txting) doing less that 30kph? it's a hazard .



If its a blind corner, maybe 70kph is a bit fast .
dolby digital (5073)
641551 2008-02-23 04:52:00 If its a blind corner, maybe 70kph is a bit fast.

well i stopped in time, but still scary, unneccessary, and the guy behind me may have been doing 100 (it's a fast corner, but the bank on the inside makes it especially blind going left)
motorbyclist (188)
641552 2008-02-23 07:28:00 ever gone around a blind corner at 70kph (was a reasonable speed) to find a driver (txting) doing less that 30kph? it's a hazard.


exactly. we have lots of 100km/h corners that are blind corners.
simply put your relying on people not to be stupid and park on the road by the corner or drive at 30k/h. (i've had several vehicle park in the middle of a country road with both car doors wide open on the entrance to a corner lately.)
if the vehicles moving its rare that there would be an accident. usual the problem comes from people driving way to close. had one guy that ended up stopping on the shoulder beside the car in front, then 20 secs later.....did the exact same thing ! some people just do not learn :(

www.nzherald.co.nz

yet again :( its an 80km/h speed limit, easy down hill corner that we used to do 100+ through.
tweak'e (69)
641553 2008-02-23 12:31:00 wasn't there something like 6 fatal crashes on the weekend when it started raining again? it's like people forgot that wet roads are slippery


(though there was a lot of oil etc built up on the roads that needed wasing off, and did make it worse)
motorbyclist (188)
641554 2008-02-23 22:44:00 wasn't there something like 6 fatal crashes on the weekend when it started raining again? it's like people forgot that wet roads are slippery


(though there was a lot of oil etc built up on the roads that needed wasing off, and did make it worse)

don't know about any others.

no oil on the roads, well washed off by the rain the day before. besides i drove on that road earlier that morning in the pouring rain. road wasn't slippery and traffic where was well, no one was doing anything silly (mind you traffic was light i didn't see many at that hour of the morning).
tweak'e (69)
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