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Thread ID: 87669	2008-02-29 15:34:00	Got to tell some sh*t	rob_on_guitar (4196)	PC World Chat

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645050	2008-03-01 10:49:00	And what if one night your neighbour who you borrowed sugar off last week, or your best friend who you went out on the town with was drunk, high, depressed, angry or whatever and decided to attack someone/you? First, when someone's high they won't attack a friend. I've been around a few friends who were high. They're floating landfish when they're high. Second, my neighbour gets drunk on an occasional basis and I've been around him. He'll never attack me. And even if he did, I'll just run away. If a drunk friend attacks me, can I call him a friend? And no, I won't kill him. I'll restrain him and try to talk some sense to him. But such things will never happen in my case. If they attacked someone else, I'll restrain them. Not my neighbour, though, he's a freaking giant. Look, we're talking about someone we don't know attacking us. Don't bring the 'drunk friend/neighbour' scenario. Keep to the topic. This thread came about because some ****ers decided to smash Rob for no reason, and not because Rob's drunk friend punched him in the face (WHICH didn't happen).	qazwsxokmijn (102)
645051	2008-03-01 10:53:00	If a drunk friend attacks me, can I call him a friend? And no, I won't kill him. I'll restrain him and try to talk some sense to him. But such things will never happen in my case. Look, we're talking about someone we don't know attacking us. Does it make a difference? They're both humans (someone we don't know, and your friend), they probably both have family, friends, etc. Sure, it might make you feel a little better killing someone you don't know vs killing someone you do know, but in the end it still doesn't matter.	--Wolf-- (128)
645052	2008-03-01 11:02:00	Sure, it might make you feel a little better killing someone you don't know vs killing someone you do know, but in the end it still doesn't matter. Yes, it does matter. It matters a great deal. A complete stranger decides to attack/kill me. Doesn't that tell you he's a savage and callous criminal? I don't care about him. I don't care about his life. And that makes me not care about his death. All I care about is my perilous situation with him, in which I may lose my limbs or even life. And when he's dead, I think about the victims he could have harmed if I hadn't accidentally killed him. And that lets me know my killing prevented someone else's pain. If a friend attacks me - I'll restrain him. I won't fight him. I'd regret it if I ever killed him. If he can whoop my ass, I'm running away. Even if I do accidentally killed him, I'd be crushed. I'd regret killing him. He's my friend. We shared good times together. Now he's gone, all because of one stupid argument that led to his death. Now compare the friend death scenario with the unprovoked attacker scenario. I just walked from a fish and chip shop with $3 chips and 2 fish. A stranger walks up to me, and demands my food. I don't give it to him, and he beats me up for it. I push him away, he gets hit by an oncoming bus. So, so far, the only thing we have shared is fists, blood and spoiled fish and chips. Hell, that beats friendship in your book, don't it? So, it does matter. It matters a great deal.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
645053	2008-03-01 11:09:00	Remember, David, that the word victim should only be used if the harmed one is innocent. We're talking about unprovoked attackers here. ;) Actually no, the definition of victim is "This is the person who has been assaulted or attacked by the accused." as stated here (www.owjn.org) even if you attack them in self defense and your actions result in the end of their life, they are the victim, cause they have paid the ultimate price, death.	The_End_Of_Reality (334)
645054	2008-03-01 11:10:00	Actually no, the definition of victim is "This is the person who has been assaulted or attacked by the accused." as stated here even if you attack them in self defense and your actions result in the end of their life, they are the victim, cause they have paid the ultimate price, death. Touche. But when I said 'victims' earlier, I meant the innocents.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
645055	2008-03-01 11:13:00	So Wolf, You come home, someone has broken in, and is raping a family member, You just tell them to like there and take it?, Don't dare fight the attacker in case they hurt them, Then you kick back and wait for them to leave, when they have you wander over and offer the victim a band-aid? Or do you be a man?	Metla (12)
645056	2008-03-01 11:25:00	Be a man, of course. But no intent of killing the person, otherwise am I really any better than the rapist? Sure, rape is considered worst than murder to some people (yes, including me), but taking someones life is almost as bad in my books. Beat the **** out of them, call the police, wait a few hours for them to arrive, send them off to jail with some broken bones (well hopsital if they're lucky) and let them rot in jail with LCDs and PS3s for a few years before being released on bail and then let them go do it all over again. Yes, I know that last paragraph pretty much go's against everything I have just said, but its better than telling my family I have killed a man who had no intent of even looking at me (unless he tried to attack me). And in that case, if he wasn't going to hit me or anything, is me beating and killing him any different to me drink driving and killing someone? Sure the victim of the car I hit didn't do anything to me, but the rapist didn't either (only mentally) But yeah, I'm just gonna leave it at that I think.	--Wolf-- (128)
645057	2008-03-01 11:25:00	So Wolf, You come home, someone has broken in, and is raping a family member, You just tell them to like there and take it?, Don't dare fight the attacker in case they hurt them, Then you kick back and wait for them to leave, when they have you wander over and offer the victim a band-aid? Or do you be a man? And to continue Metla's scenario: You let the rapist escape, and your beloved family member is traumatised for life. The rapist is on the loose, and two days later he rapes your neighbour's daughter. Now your neighbour's daughter is also traumatised for life. Now imagine if you have fought the rapist and restrained him or, at worst killed him. Either way, he's either in jail or in a cold grave, preventing him from harming another innocent female. Seriously, what would you do?	qazwsxokmijn (102)
645058	2008-03-01 11:29:00	but its better than telling my family I have killed a man who had no intent of even looking at me He didn't intend to look at you, but he had every intentions to violently exploit your wife, or daughter or niece. And I never said I would ever want to kill a criminal on purpose. I'm saying if I ever killed a criminal by accident, that I wouldn't feel an ounce of regret. But yeah, I'm just gonna leave it at that I think. Me too. You've already ruined Lost night for me. :lol:	qazwsxokmijn (102)
645059	2008-03-01 11:32:00	Fair enough, we now know what you consider worth fighting for, If you put your own welfare into that same category then we would all nearly be on the same page. Though just a clarifications from my view point, I never once mentioned intent to kill any attacker, If they died I wouldn't hate myself for it, But its not a can of worms I would deliberately open. Though if I found someone raping anyone I know, I would quite happily shoot them.	Metla (12)
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