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Thread ID: 87565	2008-02-26 06:29:00	made the switch	handya (3666)	PC World Chat

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643773	2008-02-27 06:50:00	This topic has drifted so offtopic, haha. The guy posted a recommendation of a product that satisfied him and his thread turns into a mac vs pc war, or atleast thats the way I see it going. Agreed. If your iMac or Mac monitor goes on the fritz you get it fixed. Hopefully you have it under warranty. If you are using a Mac pro and a 3rd party monitor then it is up to the 3rd party supplier to support their hardware. If anything else stuffs up you get it fixed like you would any other computer component. As I mentioned earlier - Macs only need to be replaced when they reach the end of their productive life cycle which would be more frequent in a production environment where time and productive output is of the essence as opposed to a Mac in the home which might be quite suitable for 10 years of use. I would imagine that the work stations at Weta digital get replaced/upgraded every 12 months or so (where relevant) as the newer faster hardware comes out.	vitalstatistix (9182)
643774	2008-02-27 10:29:00	Thats awesome lol. Macs are waaaaaay better than a PC. They're all shiny and um... wait, did I mention shiny and the fact that they dont have to be shut down (WTF was that anyway) You mean not be one Sal, but thats how most Mac fanboys work: Macs are better, we just cant tell you why... BORING!	mikebartnz (21)
643775	2008-02-27 21:36:00	No problem . They don't need to be "unique" in the hardware sense (bit like a lowered boy racer car, just because it's lowered doesn't mean it handles better - they actually handle worse), most Mac users I know have their GUIs and setups customized/optimized to suite their work flow . there is a reasonable amount that can be done mostly around keyboard preferences - also each user has their own individual file system set up, some messy, some fanatically organized . List of keyboard short cuts here . info . apple . com/article . html?artnum=75459" target="_blank">docs . info . apple . com Commercial productive live span of a studio Mac would be 1-2 years (being used 5 days a week 8-16 hours a day) after that they get upgraded as per the lease agreement or given to someone else at work . Why only 1-2 years? for top end stuff the performance improvement after 18 months on the newer model means that an upgrade is well worth it . Life span of your home Mac - anywhere from 4-10 years depending on what you do with it and whether or not you replace it . Lowered cars have a lower centre of gravity and harder springs reduce body roll, but if done poorly or done for the looks, then agreed, there's no point . I was thinking of my own computer; when I first got it, dvd writers were expensive . But last year I added a dvd writer (one of my choice) . You wouldn't be able to do that with a mac right (unless its an external one . . . ?) And with the point about the monitors, if you tire of the current monitor (too small, starting to fade if its a crt etc), you can just replace it with a new one, without needing to unecessarily replace the computer you're already happy with . Replacing a monitor is cheaper than getting a new mac too . I think the main advantage of macs over pcs is that they 'just work' . This is because every piece of hardware (and a lot of software?) is sanctioned by apple, so by definition it MUST work and be compatible . Being limited in your hardware and software choices is the cost . But my PC running XP hasn't crashed or had any catastrophic problems, but I get my own choice of hardware too . By the way I got my PC in 2002 and since then, ive only added ram and disk space, and it still does what i need :D .	utopian201 (6245)
643776	2008-02-27 22:55:00	BORING! You're still an Ass so lets leave it at that. Anyway, I think what utopain said is right. If your Mac isnt upto your current requirements, just buy a NEW one. Just spend another $2000-$3000! Easy as :D You know, as opposed to the boring and cheap :yuck: way of just upgrading a single part of your PC.	beeswax34 (63)
643777	2008-02-27 22:57:00	I think the main advantage of macs over pcs is that they 'just work'. This is because every piece of hardware (and a lot of software?) is sanctioned by apple, so by definition it MUST work and be compatible. Being limited in your hardware and software choices is the cost. But my PC running XP hasn't crashed or had any catastrophic problems, but I get my own choice of hardware too. By the way I got my PC in 2002 and since then, ive only added ram and disk space, and it still does what i need :D. And we all know thats a PC of crap and BS. If they just work, why did Deanes Touch have issues (stupid iTunes) and why are there Mac repair people out there if you guys never have any problems? It works... Just Just buy a new one, that would be easier wouldn't it?	beeswax34 (63)
643778	2008-02-27 23:25:00	And we all know thats a PC of crap and BS. If they just work, why did Deanes Touch have issues (stupid iTunes) and why are there Mac repair people out there if you guys never have any problems? It works... Just Just buy a new one, that would be easier wouldn't it? Yes, a new one, much easier......... for Mr. Jobs. (sp?)	Deathwish (143)
643779	2008-02-28 00:38:00	You're still an Ass so lets leave it at that. Anyway, I think what utopain said is right. If your Mac isnt upto your current requirements, just buy a NEW one. Just spend another $2000-$3000! Easy as :D Not necessarily. It may only need more RAM in which case you can source suitable RAM online for a reasonable price. A Mac with 2-4GB of RAM is more than sufficient for most users. Mine goes perfectly well with 1GB.	vitalstatistix (9182)
643780	2008-02-28 01:10:00	Not necessarily. It may only need more RAM in which case you can source suitable RAM online for a reasonable price. A Mac with 2-4GB of RAM is more than sufficient for most users. Mine goes perfectly well with 1GB. What else can you upgrade? Other than the KB and mouse I mean...	beeswax34 (63)
643781	2008-02-28 01:22:00	What else can you upgrade? Other than the KB and mouse I mean... hard drive, optical drive, cpu, ram	plod (107)
643782	2008-02-28 01:22:00	What else can you upgrade? Other than the KB and mouse I mean... On the iMac and Mac mini - not much because they are designed as all in one units that don't need what a PC user would consider "upgrading" As far as I know it is pretty much just the RAM if you didn't get the full 4GB for the iMac when you purchased it and 2GB for the Mac mini and hard drive which you can also source yourself. I think you can upgrade the graphics card as well but that is a but of a mission. On the Mac Pro - they have more configuration options but they are also designed for the pro work station design market rather than the home user market and most Mac Pro users would be more interested in productivity than whether they can upgrade to the latest graphics card as soon as it comes out. If you are buying a computer because you want the option of being able to upgrade every screw and circuit board with your own choice of hardware then you would get a Windows PC which would be someone like beeswax If you are buying a computer so that you can just do stuff and not have to worry so much about whats under the hood - you would get a Mac like me. Horses for courses Simple really.	vitalstatistix (9182)
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