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Thread ID: 87565	2008-02-26 06:29:00	made the switch	handya (3666)	PC World Chat

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643763	2008-02-27 03:02:00	I was just listing the Auckland locations because they are the ones I am familiar with - I got my iMac from Magnum Mac in Newton. If I lived in Wellington i would have listed the places that Safari has listed. Either way your client either didn't look very hard or was looking in the wrong places. As per the Mac tech support charges - you pay for professional hardware support for any service although the problem you are referring to can be solved by searching on Google for 10 seconds for FREE. Totally agree, he must have not looked to hard,He told me he was looking in the phone book, as he couldn't get on the Internet, locked out ( I Did ask if he had another Computer) Catch 22 eh!:D	wainuitech (129)
643764	2008-02-27 03:06:00	Totally agree, he must have not looked to hard,He told me he was looking in the phone book, as he couldn't get on the Internet, locked out ( I Did ask if he had another Computer) Catch 22 eh!:D Well now you will know for next time a client rings up. For anything else there is this guide www.apple.com	vitalstatistix (9182)
643765	2008-02-27 03:24:00	Well now you will know for next time a client rings up. For anything else there is this guide www.apple.com Thanks for the informaton.	wainuitech (129)
643766	2008-02-27 03:41:00	I wasn't comparing, rather addressing your earlier point. KB, mouse are comparably no different. In an external capacity, screens, HDDs and opticals can be sorted easily too (apart from disk failure, theres no need to internally upgrade these anyway). Mobo, CPU and GFX cards are usually settled on at the outset and ideally have a solid performance life expectancy of the overall system (2-3 years). I do agree though that Apple's price range is at least 20% too high. And don't get me wrong, I do realise you can get a kick ass computer for half the price of a mid-ranged Mac, with looks to boot if you're interested. Its just with a PC, if you want, you can upgrade any single piece; your games are too slow? change the graphics card. Your monitor dying or want one to take advantage of HD content? get a new one. Need more disk space? add another disk drive. Want a better dvd writer or a blu ray drive in a few years time? Add a drive. None of these can be done with a mac because the entire computer is encased as a single piece. I guess it IS simpler if you have a mac: if your current mac doesn't fit your needs anymore the answer is just get a new mac. So instead of upgrading, you're replacing. But you'll never ever really have a mac that is unique to you.	utopian201 (6245)
643767	2008-02-27 03:46:00	Thanks for the informaton. No problem. I guess it IS simpler if you have a mac: if your current mac doesn't fit your needs anymore the answer is just get a new mac. So instead of upgrading, you're replacing. But you'll never ever really have a mac that is unique to you. They don't need to be "unique" in the hardware sense (bit like a lowered boy racer car, just because it's lowered doesn't mean it handles better - they actually handle worse), most Mac users I know have their GUIs and setups customized/optimized to suite their work flow. there is a reasonable amount that can be done mostly around keyboard preferences - also each user has their own individual file system set up, some messy, some fanatically organized. List of keyboard short cuts here docs.info.apple.com Commercial productive live span of a studio Mac would be 1-2 years (being used 5 days a week 8-16 hours a day) after that they get upgraded as per the lease agreement or given to someone else at work. Why only 1-2 years? for top end stuff the performance improvement after 18 months on the newer model means that an upgrade is well worth it. Life span of your home Mac - anywhere from 4-10 years depending on what you do with it and whether or not you replace it.	vitalstatistix (9182)
643768	2008-02-27 03:52:00	Why not? Both have their good and bad points. Apple has ease of use, much more user friendly than PC. PC has a wider range of programs available for it. Apple for working on Graphics and video applications PC for gaming, home use etc. . What a load of crack, Both a simplistic to use, and the PC gets you more bang for your dollar and has so many quality tools available that it poos all over the Mac for Graphics and Video applications. And just like every other use in the world, There is a million to one ratio of PC's to mac use in the fields of Video and graphic manipulation. Ask yourself, how many billions of copies of Photoshop for Windows are floating around?	Metla (12)
643769	2008-02-27 04:04:00	What a load of crack, Both a simplistic to use, and the PC gets you more bang for your dollar and has so many quality tools available that it poos all over the Mac for Graphics and Video applications. Have a read of this article regarding Macs and large scale TV production work. It describes the work that went on behind the scenes at this years Grammy awards although I didn't watch any of them myself. www.digitalartsonline.co.uk	vitalstatistix (9182)
643770	2008-02-27 04:16:00	Have a read of this article regarding Macs and large scale TV production work. It describes the work that went on behind the scenes at this years Grammy awards although I didn't watch any of them myself. www.digitalartsonline.co.uk You would be amazed, But there is no way in hell I could care less what OS was running on over-priced hardware behind crap like the Grammy awards.	Metla (12)
643771	2008-02-27 04:28:00	You would be amazed, But there is no way in hell I could care less what OS was running on over-priced hardware behind crap like the Grammy awards. I wouldn't be amazed and no problem.	vitalstatistix (9182)
643772	2008-02-27 06:32:00	No problem. They don't need to be "unique" in the hardware sense (bit like a lowered boy racer car, just because it's lowered doesn't mean it handles better - they actually handle worse) Actually, you're wrong, if it's professionally done (ie. spring surgery performed by your neighbour) it can durasitically improve handling (depending on the car ofcourse, some have higher center of gravity, others lower and might not experience such a major change). Anyways, by "unique" in hardware, I don't think that when people upgrade their PC components for the sake of uniqueness, it's generally for proven performance gain. I really don't like the Mac hardware design, what do you do if the monitor screws up? They're expensive units and you have to pay a technician to replace the lcd stuff (or atleast I would have to!), and undoubtedly, the LCD itself, just like all other Mac stuff would be overpriced. If your monitor on your pc dies, you can get it fixed, but you also have the option of replacing it, with a newer model, newer design, maybe bigger, maybe smaller, etc. Probably cheaper. This topic has drifted so offtopic, haha. The guy posted a recommendation of a product that satisfied him and his thread turns into a mac vs pc war, or atleast thats the way I see it going.	Deathwish (143)
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