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Thread ID: 87669	2008-02-29 15:34:00	Got to tell some sh*t	rob_on_guitar (4196)	PC World Chat

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645010	2008-03-01 07:21:00	If I killed someone who attacks people just because he wants to, I'll feel so much pride and joy. Would you? Would you really? And if the guy was drunk? He may have been attacking people while under the influence, but the next day when he sobered up he could've been and father and husband. How would you feel than?	--Wolf-- (128)
645011	2008-03-01 07:27:00	Would you? Would you really? And if the guy was drunk? He may have been attacking people while under the influence, but the next day when he sobered up he could've been and father and husband. How would you feel than? Who ever said every man who happens to be a father and/or a husband cannot be a scoundrel? Even when drunk it takes a sick mind to bring yourself to attack or even kill someone you just saw across the street. And if I took such a father from an unfortunate kid, then it may be better that way - the kid wouldn't have to be abused by his 'father' and have better chances of growing up to be a decent man.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
645012	2008-03-01 07:39:00	If someone gets killed from events they caused, Good job. Better them then the other party.	Metla (12)
645013	2008-03-01 07:53:00	Way I see it once you behave/act outside the law anything that happens to you is your own fault. For instance if you break into someones house and he shoots you that is just too bad. Similarly, if you harass people on the street and end up getting severely bashed yourself well, hard luck.	zqwerty (97)
645014	2008-03-01 07:58:00	Nope, Not vigilante groups. How about we give some power back to the police, parents and schools in relation to disciplining children/teens. And have the police look out for honest folk, rather then spend their time issuing tickets to them. The police have enough power already to enforce the current laws. Unfortunately they do not have enough manpower to lock up all miscreants. I could see it going downhill ages ago over various governments. When I was at school you received "six of the best" with a cane or strap. Generally speaking you did not make the same mistake again. There used to be a Borstal not far from where I lived in Wellington. I decided I did not want to go there. If a police officer caught you doing something minor wrong it usually did not get to a court of law. The cop would kick you in the bum and take you home to Father and Mother. If your Dad had any brain he would do the same and back the cop. Some time back I remember reading in a newspaper about Sgt Gilfedder (I think I have the name correct but may be wrong) Earlier than 1982 anyway. He had been with the Police for around 14 years. He lost his job for grabbing a teenager by the hair. To bring a baby into the world these days a male only has to have a female about of whatever age whom he can coerce one way or another Bring back rights of parents! Children have rights too in my opinion but I think the laws have gone too far. Children will alway test the bounds and see how much they can get away with. Hopefully if the child was disciplined reasonably early in life via Parents, Schools, Mentors and role models we would not see the need to build more prisons. Please note I do not accept or tolerate spouse or child bashing. I feel rather lucky that I am not bringing up a child at this time.	Sweep (90)
645015	2008-03-01 08:05:00	The police have enough power already to enforce the current laws. Unfortunately they do not have enough manpower to lock up all miscreants. Anyone under 18 can't be charged with anything less then murder ,and traffic offences.	Metla (12)
645016	2008-03-01 08:26:00	Would you? Would you really? And if the guy was drunk? He may have been attacking people while under the influence, but the next day when he sobered up he could've been and father and husband. How would you feel than? So according to your world view the influence on the mind of the person whom does the attack by alcohol or drug related factors is an excuse. Oh please. Spare me. A person decides to drink alcohol. That is the choice of that person. If they then choose to drive rather than stay home then that may become my problem. I use alcohol at home but I lock my car up and will not go out again. I do not visit Pubs, bars, nightclubs by choice.	Sweep (90)
645017	2008-03-01 08:34:00	So according to your world view the influence on the mind of the person whom does the attack by alcohol or drug related factors is an excuse. Oh please. Spare me. A person decides to drink alcohol. That is the choice of that person. If they then choose to drive rather than stay home then that may become my problem. I use alcohol at home but I lock my car up and will not go out again. I do not visit Pubs, bars, nightclubs by choice. Actually, you're missing the point of what I was trying to say, or rather reply to. People can do stupid things when they're drunk, but what's worse than that is people doing stupid things to drunk people, ie killing them. That's like killing a baby because he/she cried too much, but in a few years you would regret that (aside from being in jail) because the baby would no longer be crying (as much) and obviously wouldn't be a baby anymore. Some drunk guy attacks you on the street, you kill him. That drunk guy could've been the same person that no more than a day ago rode the bus with you, answered your call at Telecom, taught your kid maths at school, served you at the supermarket, but you didn't feel the need to kill them then did you? Sure they didn't attack you, but they weren't (well you'd hope not) drunk and had no intentions of doing that.	--Wolf-- (128)
645018	2008-03-01 08:37:00	Anyone under 18 can't be charged with anything less then murder ,and traffic offences. Where did you get that? I have a conviction for something which isn't either of those things from when I was 14. It isn't supposed to show on a list of convictions is all, although it did...........	pctek (84)
645019	2008-03-01 08:39:00	Anyone under 18 can't be charged with anything less then murder ,and traffic offences. Not quite right Metla. Bailey Junior Kuariki and certainly under 18 at the time the offence was committed. He was convicted of manslaughter rather than murder. Try not to get a Pizza delivery person around any time soon. You just do not know whom you will get. He is up for parole again this year.	Sweep (90)
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