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Thread ID: 87565	2008-02-26 06:29:00	made the switch	handya (3666)	PC World Chat

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643753	2008-02-27 00:52:00	First of all, I'm not a fanboy, so... You may not be one sal, but thats how most Mac fanboys work: Macs are better, we just cant tell you why... There are a couple of good (www.engadget.com) feature comparison break downs (http://www.macvswindows.com/) between OS X and Vista around. And no, I'm no Mac fanboy. Nobody wants to put Mac OS on a PC.... ...in addition to Safari's link, there's also the OSx86 Project (www.osx86project.org/) which is quite an active community, here's a bunch of other relevant links (http:). There isn't a lot of difference except PCs were made to be customised and Apples were made to be as difficult as possible to alter. RAM is super easy to upgrade yourself which, since the rest of the system is usually well spec'd, would be about the only upgrade I'd be interested in really.	sal (67)
643754	2008-02-27 01:02:00	RAM is super easy to upgrade yourself which, since the rest of the system is usually well spec'd, would be about the only upgrade I'd be interested in really. But so are PCs when new. But then you can change anything - KB, mouse, screen, hdd, opticals, board, CPUs, graphics. Especially graphics. And its cheaper.	pctek (84)
643755	2008-02-27 01:42:00	Haha, glad you enjoyed that switch. I have considered Mac too, for work with music etc. but it's way too expensive for what hardware you get, even if you do consider the software bundles. Rented a Mac from Noel Leeming? Not on Hire Purchase or Lease? What are your hardware requirements?	vitalstatistix (9182)
643756	2008-02-27 01:50:00	But so are PCs when new. But then you can change anything - KB, mouse, screen, hdd, opticals, board, CPUs, graphics. Especially graphics. And its cheaper. I wasn't comparing, rather addressing your earlier point. KB, mouse are comparably no different. In an external capacity, screens, HDDs and opticals can be sorted easily too (apart from disk failure, theres no need to internally upgrade these anyway). Mobo, CPU and GFX cards are usually settled on at the outset and ideally have a solid performance life expectancy of the overall system (2-3 years). I do agree though that Apple's price range is at least 20% too high. And don't get me wrong, I do realise you can get a kick ass computer for half the price of a mid-ranged Mac, with looks to boot if you're interested.	sal (67)
643757	2008-02-27 02:14:00	Just my :2cents: worth on MAC's - just today while enjoying lunch had a guy call me up and wanted to know if I could crack a login password for him since his daughter had password protected the system and now she cant remember what it was. He said it was a MAC and has rung just about every one in the phone book NO ONE can help him because support for MAC's is almost non existent.	wainuitech (129)
643758	2008-02-27 02:35:00	Just my :2cents: worth on MAC's - just today while enjoying lunch had a guy call me up and wanted to know if I could crack a login password for him since his daughter had password protected the system and now she cant remember what it was. He said it was a MAC and has rung just about every one in the phone book NO ONE can help him because support for MAC's is almost non existent. That would be because they are designed NOT to be cracked - although they can be bypassed if you know how. As for Mac support Ubertech in Parnell Magnum Mac in Newton The new Apple Store in the westfield plaza in Albany or any of about 1,000 online forums including Apple's support pages. Also if searching online use "OS X" plus version as opposed to "MAC" or "Mac" which won't bring up as much as OS X 10.5 will.	vitalstatistix (9182)
643759	2008-02-27 02:44:00	Just my :2cents: worth on MAC's - just today while enjoying lunch had a guy call me up and wanted to know if I could crack a login password for him since his daughter had password protected the system and now she cant remember what it was. He said it was a MAC and has rung just about every one in the phone book NO ONE can help him because support for MAC's is almost non existent. Really- where did they get it from. They did not look very hard, even a quick Google search would have given him the answer but the following link has all the info you might need for future queries. www.nzmac.com MagnumMac Wellington Digerati Limited Toucan Computers Ltd iFix Limited Those are just Wellington by the way as I assume they are in your location.	Safari (3993)
643760	2008-02-27 02:51:00	That would be because they are designed NOT to be cracked - although they can be bypassed if you know how . As for Mac support Ubertech in Parnell Magnum Mac in Newton The new Apple Store in the westfield plaza in Albany or any of about 1,000 online forums including Apple's support pages . Also if searching online use "OS X" plus version as opposed to "MAC" or "Mac" which won't bring up as much as OS X 10 . 5 will . So is MAC only supported In the Auckland area by tech's ?? Believe it or not theres more to NZ than Auckland . :p :D When ever I have had calls from in the Wellington area, I get people saying no one supports them apart from Magnum Mac and they want to charge you LOTS to do what ever the person wants . - so it looks like the support is like the computers - pricey . Edited: Thanks Safari - for those places . I wont deal with MAC's so the support for them I don't know or are interested in . BUT in future I can now advice people on places to ask . Most people use the telephone book and maybe the advertising is not to good . Cant use the computer - hence they cant look up the internet .	wainuitech (129)
643761	2008-02-27 02:56:00	So is MAC only supported In the Auckland area by tech's ?? Believe it or not theres more to NZ than Auckland.:p :D When ever I have had calls from in the Wellington area, I get people saying no one supports them apart from Magnum Mac and they want to charge you LOTS to do what ever the person wants. - so it looks like the support is like the computers - pricey. I was just listing the Auckland locations because they are the ones I am familiar with - I got my iMac from Magnum Mac in Newton. If I lived in Wellington i would have listed the places that Safari has listed. Either way your client either didn't look very hard or was looking in the wrong places. As per the Mac tech support charges - you pay for professional hardware support for any service PC or Mac. However the problem you are referring to can be solved by searching on Google properly for 10 seconds for FREE. Also forums.macrumors.com which covers pretty much everything you might be looking for. or http://www.macfixit.com/	vitalstatistix (9182)
643762	2008-02-27 02:59:00	So is MAC only supported In the Auckland area by tech's ?? Believe it or not theres more to NZ than Auckland . :p :D When ever I have had calls from in the Wellington area, I get people saying no one supports them apart from Magnum Mac and they want to charge you LOTS to do what ever the person wants . - so it looks like the support is like the computers - pricey . Edited: Thanks Safari - for those places . I wont deal with MAC's so the support for them I don't know or are interested in . BUT in future I can now advice people on places to ask . Just to add to that there is plenty of free support and help from experienced mac users at welmac The Wellington Macintosh Society Incorporated, a non-profit organisation and New Zealand's largest Macintosh User Group, was formed in April 1984 to support Apple Macintosh computer users in Wellington, New Zealand . We hold meetings to instruct in computing and exchange ideas with other users of Apple Macintosh computers . . welmac . org . nz/index . html" target="_blank">www . welmac . org . nz	Safari (3993)
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