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Thread ID: 87609 2008-02-27 11:17:00 the new macbook air motorbyclist (188) PC World Chat
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644265 2008-02-28 05:25:00 I read it just after the MacBook Air was released. ;) That is why there are 3rd party battery suppliers for the MacBook Air. ;)
apparentley there are 19 screws that hold the battery in. (they are very small)

"A standard size-0 type philips is all that's required to open the MacBook Air. The replacement process is described:

Once flipped upside down, the MacBook Air's bottom cover is easily unscrewed and removed, providing immediate access to the battery cavity. From there, the battery can be unscrewed from the chassis with the same screwdriver and unplugged from the circuit board with a simple tug -- it's not soldered to the board."

You would however void the warranty no doubt, trying to replace it yourself. Apple loves control, so they want to replace it for you, hence making it non removable. I hope other manufacturers don't start to do this too, like they have done with MP3 players.
robbyp (2751)
644266 2008-02-28 05:29:00 For its part, Apple has announced its intent to offer a MacBook Air Out-of-Warranty Battery Replacement Program, which promises authorized replacements for US $129. The mail-in repair process normally takes 5 business days, the company says.

Given the simplicity of the upgrade, however, it's possible that Apple will in time offer the service on-demand at its retail stores. Similarly, third parties could also offer in-home do-it-yourself kits should they be able to acquire battery cells that meet Apple's standard for the MacBook Air.
There's no word, however, whether the latter process would void the notebook's warranty in Apple's eyes.

What exactly is wrong with a maximum 5 hours battery life on an ultra slim laptop anyway?:confused:
vitalstatistix (9182)
644267 2008-02-28 05:51:00 What exactly is wrong with a maximum 5 hours battery life on an ultra slim laptop anyway?:confused:

nothing wrong, unless you need more than 5 hours, then there's lots wrong when it's 19 screws just to access it vs. simply pulling the thing out

though one would think carrying spare batteries and screwdrivers would defeat the purpose of it being 2cm thick


my sources told me the battery was non-replaceable. quick check of www.apple.com/nz/ didn't tell me otherwise so i assumed they had omitted that detail




fact is, it should still have more than one usb port!

"oh, here's the file on my usb flashdisk, i'll just unplug the mouse/opticaldrive/other device to access it, copy the files off it, then because there's no nearby pc set up for wireless sharing of it's optical drive i'll plug the optical drive in and burn it for you, then unplug that and put the mouse back it cause i prefer that to the pad thingy"

but that's ok, cause it's 2cm thick! OMG
motorbyclist (188)
644268 2008-02-28 06:15:00 5 hours is plenty, What could you possibly think to do with it after 7 or 8 minutes? Metla (12)
644269 2008-02-28 06:16:00 my sources told me the battery was non-replaceable. quick check of www.apple.com/nz/ didn't tell me otherwise so i assumed they had omitted that detail


The info came from a third party site rather than Apple directly.
vitalstatistix (9182)
644270 2008-02-28 06:20:00 Fools with money.

Seriously, who would spend that much money on a crippled and near useless device. Only people who think spending cash on crap makes them stylish.

Ever think maybe a really thin laptop may appeal to people? You don't need super high specs for something you could take just about anyway, and use it for simple things like emails, word docs etc.
--Wolf-- (128)
644271 2008-02-28 06:37:00 Ever think maybe a really thin laptop may appeal to people? You don't need super high specs for something you could take just about anyway, and use it for simple things like emails, word docs etc.
For $3000?

Hell no, I'd just buy a $400 laptop for that. Whore cares if it's a mere 2Kgs heavier and a couple of centimeters thicker?
qazwsxokmijn (102)
644272 2008-02-28 06:38:00 Ever think maybe a really thin laptop may appeal to people? You don't need super high specs for something you could take just about anyway, and use it for simple things like emails, word docs etc.

Although I don't see how a few less mm to the thickness would make that much difference, unless space was a major issue, such as if you are going into space.
robbyp (2751)
644273 2008-02-28 07:24:00 A few simple responses that turned into a very long post:


I'd rather get the Lenovo Thinkpad X300 anyday . Same price, same weight, almost as thin, proper laptop .

Fact: This isn't quite true .

Apple offers the MacBook Air with a 1 . 8-inch HDD for US$1,799 . 00, whereas Lenovo does not . The cheapest X300 costs US$2,548 with a 64GB SDD drive, the cheapest SSD MacBook Air costs $2,798 . 00 . All of a sudden, they seem pretty similar in price .

Of course, they aren't perfectly equal in specs, you would really need to factor in adding an extra 1GB of RAM to the X300 and buying the $99 external DVD burner to the MacBook Air . In terms of things you can't change, the Lenovo offers a higher resolution screen, but the MacBook Air has either a 1 . 6GHz or 1 . 8GHz processor, vs a 1 . 2GHz low-voltage processor .

In terms of SSD, I would say they are actually similarly priced and there and pros and cons with each laptops specifications (faster processor or higher res screen, carry disk drive everywhere or leave at home etc) . However, the MacBook Air offers a cheaper entry point with a HDD option .


I think the air shows how much apple wants control, as everything is internalised and non upgradable . eg . you can't even replace/upgrade the battery or memory, without sending it into apple . Imagine if Dell played this game, there would probably be a huge uproar . I don't think so . If Dell did the same with a bulky 15-inch laptop, then yes . But when it comes to ultra portables (I personally consider weight and thickness to be very relevant factors in deciding what is an ultraportable, not just screen size, although that is not strictly relevant as they both have 13-inch screens) I think you have to expect trade offs .


So this can't be compared to any other Macbook ever made?

I would love to know the logic behind that . If they had discontinued the MacBook and replaced it with the MacBook Air, then yes, it would be illogical not to compare them . However, the MacBook Air serves a different market, one that until now Apple has not produced products for . You can still buy a MacBook it you want high specs and don't mind the extra weight .


oh, and the battery is not replaceable, so you can't extend life with a spare battery

comes with 80gb hardrive, or for a small fortune you can "upgrade" to a 64gb solid state hard driveThe battery is replacable . It is not officially user replaceable . Apple has said that because of this, they will not be charging a service fee to install the battery . Therefore, it will cost no more than buying a battery for any other MacBook . As for the SSD, could you please find a company offering 64GB SSDs in laptops for a significantly lower price and let me know?

Design and aesthetics also add a lot to Apple products . Maybe to some people aesthetics are irrelevant, but most people do factor them into a purchase, whether they make up 10% or 90% of their decision, they will normally consider what the product looks like . Most of you will not have seen a MacBook Air in person yet, so before forming a final decision, I'd suggest going to have a look at one, you'll be surprised how thin and portable it really is . I posted a few hands on photos ( . maccrazy . net/2008/01/17/macbook-air-hands-on/" target="_blank">www . maccrazy . net) the day after it was released at Macworld, some of you might find them interesting - press photos don't normally give you a very good idea of what it looks like in real life .

Personally, for me it is the perfect laptop . Sufficiently powerful for my needs (taking notes, a few HD videos, coding, the internet) . I have a desktop at home, so I don't want to be weighed down by an extra KG of extras I'm not going to use (my backpack has enough in it already :p ) .
maccrazy (6741)
644274 2008-02-28 07:29:00 maccarazy answered my call from the second post in this thread.

Sure, answered it with piffle, But Piffel that flows real close to the official apple piffle.

Beats independent thought, any day.
Metla (12)
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