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| Thread ID: 87775 | 2008-03-03 21:05:00 | Damn Aussies win again! | nofam (9009) | PC World Chat |
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| 645971 | 2008-03-03 21:05:00 | www.stuff.co.nz | nofam (9009) | ||
| 645972 | 2008-03-03 22:04:00 | Nargh!!! :mad: :p Imagine if Labour promised that in NZ right now. Would anyone believe them? That's what we SHOULD have in NZ, 25 mbit/sec, minimum of 12 mbit/sec. Minimum of 12Mbit a second! /drool |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 645973 | 2008-03-03 22:20:00 | I just can't see Telecom committing to FTTP - imagine running fibre through and around all the mountains we have in NZ!! Especially in the South Island. Geography is one of the reasons we made our Wanaka store stand alone late last year; they were connected to our servers via a Frame Relay circuit, but comms were so dodgy it just wasn't workable. Telecom had no redundancy in place, and wouldn't commit to putting any in either, so we had no choice but to spend a small fortune making things reliable ourselves. I'd simply go and live in Australia, but unfortunately, it's full of Australians! :D |
nofam (9009) | ||
| 645974 | 2008-03-03 22:21:00 | I'd simply go and live in Australia, but unfortunately, it's full of Australians! :D Big problem that. Don't know if I could handle it. :lol: Down in the SI, getting high speed fibre everywhere would be amazingly costly, but even so, they don't have a decent network in the big cities, or any decent backbone for that matter. They should work on getting Whangarei, Aucks, Hamilton, Tauranga, Napier/Hastings, New Plymouth, Palmy Nth, Welly, Nelson, Blenheim, Chch, Timaru/Oamaru, Dunners, Invercargill, Queenstown.... Then start joining them, start branching out to smaller towns, and get a decent fibre cable down the West Coast. Now, there goes $500 million or so.... :p It will have to happen, the network now is under stress, and is getting worse each day. Hopefully it doesn't take too long to get A into G and get the ball rolling. ADSL2+ is definitely not going to be all it's cracked up to be, unless you live right next to the exchange. Even then, in Auckland a lot of the exchanges seem to be so overloaded. |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 645975 | 2008-03-03 22:38:00 | Nargh!!! :mad: :p Imagine if Labour promised that in NZ right now. Would anyone believe them? That's what we SHOULD have in NZ, 25 mbit/sec, minimum of 12 mbit/sec. Minimum of 12Mbit a second! /drool Why do we have to those speeds, what would the average person do with it. Most people are currently on 256kbps and doing everything they want to do. Not everyone wants to download movies, they use the internet for email and web sites and watching the occasional video clip etc and current FS plans are more than adequate for that. |
Safari (3993) | ||
| 645976 | 2008-03-03 22:39:00 | I think you hit the nail on the head there aye - it needs to begin now (yesterday even!) but Telecom will be loath to invest $500m if they're about to lose their monopoly on that infrastructure (surely the bestest way to recoup all that $$$) It's a big investment up front, but it NEEDS to happen, and will be a long-term money spinner for whoever has the cajones to do it . My favourite story about how crappy Internet is here involves Natural History NZ, based here in Dunedin (they make award-winning nature doco's etc) . A few years back they were flying footage to LA, 1st class because it was cheaper/quicker than uploading it to their clients for editing . . . . In the end, they lost a $multi-million contract because they couldn't supply on time . I think Peter Jackson had similar issues when filming LOTR, but he got special dispensations from Telecom :p |
nofam (9009) | ||
| 645977 | 2008-03-03 22:46:00 | Re Safari: In NZ, it's not so much about the speed (yet), although that would be lovely having internet that fast, but the availability and reliability of it. I think Telecom are putting the horse before the cart with ADSL2, they are putting more pressure on an already overcrowded network. They need to upgrade the network first, work on getting 'everyone' (within reason) on broadband, then work on upgrading the infrastructure, and getting faster speeds. Near Motueka, up the west bank (anyone round here will know what I'm talking about) there are hundreds of households, none of which can get broadband. I know of over 15 households, all of whom would purchase broadband if it was available, and I'm sure there are plenty more. But Telecom wont upgrade it. No one knows why, there is plenty of interest, and people contacting them, but it doesn't seem to be happening. |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 645978 | 2008-03-03 22:56:00 | Re Safari: In NZ, it's not so much about the speed (yet), although that would be lovely having internet that fast, but the availability and reliability of it. I think Telecom are putting the horse before the cart with ADSL2, they are putting more pressure on an already overcrowded network. They need to upgrade the network first, work on getting 'everyone' (within reason) on broadband, then work on upgrading the infrastructure, and getting faster speeds. Near Motueka, up the west bank (anyone round here will know what I'm talking about) there are hundreds of households, none of which can get broadband. I know of over 15 households, all of whom would purchase broadband if it was available, and I'm sure there are plenty more. But Telecom wont upgrade it. No one knows why, there is plenty of interest, and people contacting them, but it doesn't seem to be happening. Agree. But this thread seems to be focused on speed. eg your comment - Minimum of 12Mbit a second I was just commenting on what benefit would that be to the average user. Organizations and companies who need extremely fast and reliable connections have different options available to them now if that is what they need.. |
Safari (3993) | ||
| 645979 | 2008-03-03 22:57:00 | I think you hit the nail on the head there aye - it needs to begin now (yesterday even!) but Telecom will be loath to invest $500m if they're about to lose their monopoly on that infrastructure (surely the bestest way to recoup all that $$$) It's a big investment up front, but it NEEDS to happen, and will be a long-term money spinner for whoever has the cajones to do it . Seems that way to me too . They have enough money but they are tighter than a duck's bum . In the long run it would be a damn nice investment for them . My favourite story about how crappy Internet is here involves Natural History NZ, based here in Dunedin (they make award-winning nature doco's etc) . A few years back they were flying footage to LA, 1st class because it was cheaper/quicker than uploading it to their clients for editing . . . . In the end, they lost a $multi-million contract because they couldn't supply on time . I heard about that, it's a big problem for people in NZ trying to get their content out of the country . Either the cost is completely ludicrous, or it isn't even possible . I think Peter Jackson had similar issues when filming LOTR, but he got special dispensations from Telecom :p Yep - Telecom would have been mighty glad they helped him out too! |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 645980 | 2008-03-03 23:05:00 | Agree. But this thread seems to be focused on speed. eg your comment - Minimum of 12Mbit a second Fair point, I was more visualizing the speed, not saying it was a necessity (hence the /drool) :p I was just commenting on what benefit would that be to the average user.? As time goes on, it would benefit the average user more and more, internet TV would become an affordable and viable alternative to name one, options for all sorts if things, a lot of which are mentioned in the link nofam posted would become affordable and easily accessible for the average household broadband user. Right now, sure, it wouldn't benefit the 'average' user much, but it would start to very quickly, if the capability was there. Build the road, the cars will come. That is a philosophy that seems to be sadly lacking in this country, in nearly every sector. Roading, public transport and internet to name three. Organizations and companies who need extremely fast and reliable connections have different options available to them now if that is what they need.. Most of the time that's the case. There is still a very high cost involved for anyone wanting (or needing) to get set up with super-quick broadband to run their business. It has certainly improved of late though. |
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