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Thread ID: 87766 2008-03-03 07:49:00 New tyres, front or back? lakewoodlady (103) PC World Chat
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645861 2008-03-04 03:39:00 I will say it again, you do not want to lose the front first you want to lose the back, in this way you have some hope of recovering, if the front goes out you are lost. you put the tyres with the most grip on the front, you want over steer not under steer.

You can say it all you want, but I will go with the experts every time. LTSA, Beaurepaires, and SurferJoe kind of outweigh your opinion! :D
John H (8)
645862 2008-03-04 03:46:00 <Pulls up deckchair and beer> SolMiester (139)
645863 2008-03-04 03:55:00 You can say it all you want, but I will go with the experts every time. LTSA, Beaurepaires, and SurferJoe kind of outweigh your opinion! :D

Experience > Expertise
--Wolf-- (128)
645864 2008-03-04 04:01:00 Experience > Expertise

Not sure what you are meaning by this, but I take it that you mean experience leads to expertise? It is my experience that experience on its own does not necessarily translate into expertise.

Experience can simply be a process of doing the same thing over and over for years without thinking about it or looking at alternatives. I have known many people who have vast levels of experience, but who are firmly stuck in the past, having been left behind by new learning.
John H (8)
645865 2008-03-04 04:13:00 <Pulls up deckchair and beer>

<Starts the BBQ>
rob_on_guitar (4196)
645866 2008-03-04 04:25:00 Rally drivers deliberately make the back swing out as they approach a corner so that they come into the corner facing the way they want to go, this does require skill but the first thing that is required is over steer in other words the car must lose adhesion at the back first so that they can correct by using the steering wheel and the front wheels once the alignment is right and the car is at the corner they plant boot and accelerate out of the corner.

In the old days the cars were rear wheel drive, ie Ford Escort, because the weight of the engine is in the front on the front wheels and the back is lighter plus the drive is to the back wheels it was easy to make the back swing out first. Front engined rear wheel drive cars have inherently good (exciting) handling because of their inherent over steer.

Front wheel drive cars ie early Subarus, also have the weight at the front but the drive is to the front wheels, a slightly different technique is required but the same thing applies and they are very good to drive on dirt road or under slippery conditions.

HOWEVER you do NEED the GOOD tyres ON THE FRONT to achieve this. Please desist from typing nonsense all who are saying otherwise.

Porsches on the other hand have the weight and the drive at the back and require very different technique to achieve fast cornering. Very easy to lose the back and end up smashing into a lamp post backwards. A very powerful rear wheel drive car like an E type Jag will also do this, I have seen both of these things happen first hand. The Jag ended up backwards into a tree.

Good front tyres will not help much in these cases but I still would want the best tyres on the front not the back.
zqwerty (97)
645867 2008-03-04 04:26:00 We are not in the old days and we are not rally drivers... rob_on_guitar (4196)
645868 2008-03-04 04:31:00 So there,no arguing with zqwerty,who says he knows all.
Best not to argue with a "know all".
Unless of course you are into wasting time.
Cicero (40)
645869 2008-03-04 04:36:00 "IQ's must have dropped sharply round here" in the last couple of days.

(thanks Aliens II for the quote)

You are right Cicero, I do know a lot but I try to remain humble.
zqwerty (97)
645870 2008-03-04 04:43:00 I will agree to disagree to keep the peace. rob_on_guitar (4196)
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