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Thread ID: 87766 2008-03-03 07:49:00 New tyres, front or back? lakewoodlady (103) PC World Chat
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645851 2008-03-03 23:42:00 With the benefit of having had 47 years in the tyre business and having heard this discussion many times, I always recommended fitting the new tyres to the rear wheels. One of the reasons for this is that it is much easier for the average driver to control understeer in a vehicle rather than oversteer. Of course the best solution is to fit 4 tyres at once, and to criticise tyre rotation as a means only of selling more tyres is spurious. Rotation ensures that the best mileage is obtained from all tyres, as wear patterns vary even between tyres fitted on the same axle. Rotation ensures that variances are evened out so that each tyre gives its maximum. As a supplier of tyres to many, many motorists, I pleaded with them to make sure they kept to correct tyre pressures, as this is really the best way of getting your maximum value from the modern radial tyre, which is a pretty good product. Wheel alignment annually is also a sound investment. Remember that your tyre supplier will check and adjust tyre pressures free of charge for you. Just get to know him! It will save you money in the long run.

47 years in the tyre business, and you still havent learnt that you put the best tyres on the front.
XRNZN (13406)
645852 2008-03-03 23:43:00 I recently put my car through a WOF and found that the two rear tyres were getting within a coupla mls of needing replacement (i.e they were not bald but probably would not last to the next WOF).

I went to Beaurepaires to get replacements and asked that the new tyres go on the front because that is what I had always understood to be the proper thing. Beaurepaires refused, saying that their company's policy on this had changed, and they now always put the new tyres on the rear in situations like mine.

Not sure how relevant this is, but it is a front wheel drive granny car.

I assume Beaurepaires knows better than me on situations like this, though their taste in TV ad frontmen is execrable.
John H (8)
645853 2008-03-04 00:24:00 47 years in the tyre business, and you still havent learnt that you put the best tyres on the front.

In the early days of radial tyres, if only two were fitted with cross-ply tyres fitted on the other wheels, the radials MUST be fitted to the rear axle. The vehicle was dangerous otherwise as handling was severely compromised. No tyre company or vehicle inspection authority will say otherwise.

The logic remains the same, the better handling tyres must be fitted to the rear wheels. and I cannot understand why anybody would think the opposite.

SurferJoe is right too in saying that the direction of rotation for radials should not be changed. Rotate front to back on the same side for best mileage. :)
Richard (739)
645854 2008-03-04 00:29:00 John H,
That is exactly my situation! As I am a sensible older person and don't go hooning around or belt along at 150ks. I am an ex driving instructor and have done three defensive driving courses and passed the Nissan Anti Skid program back in the '90s. I also am on my own so don't have anyone to argue this with and will go with what Beaurepaires suggests.

Good to read all the comments though!
lakewoodlady (103)
645855 2008-03-04 00:45:00 What is the difference between an old person and a older person? Cicero (40)
645856 2008-03-04 00:55:00 Ideally, tyres should be renewed in sets of four. If this is not possible, tyres should at least be replaced in pairs on the same axle. Most tyre manufacturers recommend placing the tyres with the best grip and cornering power (new tyres) at the rear, whether the car is front or rear wheel drive. Fitting new tyres to the front can result in oversteer and loss of control.

from LTNZ (www.landtransport.govt.nz)


It doesn't really matter to me as I change 4 at once.
SKT174 (1319)
645857 2008-03-04 00:56:00 New tyres, better grip. Tyres with 2 - 3 mm (still legal) less grip.
Which tyre would loose traction first on a tight corner.?
BobM (1138)
645858 2008-03-04 02:05:00 If you are worried about tire blow-outs, then fit Goodyear LifeGuards, never known to let you down :)

www.oldtimeradiofans.com
Terry Porritt (14)
645859 2008-03-04 02:10:00 I think the question is,new tyres on front or back,no fear of blow out,that I am aware?
Rare these days to hear of a blowout,mind you I could be wrong.
Cicero (40)
645860 2008-03-04 03:35:00 I will say it again, you do not want to lose the front first you want to lose the back, in this way you have some hope of recovering, if the front goes out you are lost, you put the tyres with the most grip on the front, you want over steer not under steer.

This is especially true on a front wheel drive car because when you plant boot if there is no grip on a corner the the tyres will spin and you will slide front first off the road, I rest my case.

As for the bald tyres, I was trying to make my point "reductio ad absurdum" which you seem to be unfamiliar with Joe and are taking everything I say literally and missing my point completely, please try harder to think without following the party line blindly which given your past history I think you tend to do, sorry to be insulting but I am feeling annoyed at how you have dismissed me out of hand as if I know nothing.
zqwerty (97)
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