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Thread ID: 87766 2008-03-03 07:49:00 New tyres, front or back? lakewoodlady (103) PC World Chat
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645841 2008-03-03 19:15:00 Again, it doesn't really matter if you put them on the front or back. If you wanna drive with good tyres on the front, and not so good on the back, or visa versa, then do it, but if you were really worried about it, you'd replace them all.

I think all these "opinions" are just that. Opinion. Expert or not, but the best opinion in these case is experiance. Ask someone who's had a blowout on the rear and front, sure there's plenty of variables, but he would generally be able to tell you which was worse.
--Wolf-- (128)
645842 2008-03-03 19:20:00 IMO if you are concerned at all about the condition of the tyres, replace them...

EVERYONE here seems to have assumed you can only get a flat tyre due to its condition, that is not true, glass, nails etc can cause a flat. Infact I saw a guy with a flat this morning, was the rear drivers side and the condition of the tyre as best I could tell from driving past was the tyre is fine, there was loads of tread.

:2cents:
The_End_Of_Reality (334)
645843 2008-03-03 19:52:00 I have been driving front wheel drive cars for 24 years and have always put new tyres on the front and putting the half worn front tyres on the rear and well continue to do so.
:)
Trev (427)
645844 2008-03-03 20:08:00 With the benefit of having had 47 years in the tyre business and having heard this discussion many times, I always recommended fitting the new tyres to the rear wheels. One of the reasons for this is that it is much easier for the average driver to control understeer in a vehicle rather than oversteer. Of course the best solution is to fit 4 tyres at once, and to criticise tyre rotation as a means only of selling more tyres is spurious. Rotation ensures that the best mileage is obtained from all tyres, as wear patterns vary even between tyres fitted on the same axle. Rotation ensures that variances are evened out so that each tyre gives its maximum. As a supplier of tyres to many, many motorists, I pleaded with them to make sure they kept to correct tyre pressures, as this is really the best way of getting your maximum value from the modern radial tyre, which is a pretty good product. Wheel alignment annually is also a sound investment. Remember that your tyre supplier will check and adjust tyre pressures free of charge for you. Just get to know him! It will save you money in the long run. Richard (739)
645845 2008-03-03 20:23:00 I have read again the posts in this thread, and some mention tyres having 'blow-outs'. Modern radial tubeless tyres do not blow out unless they are grossly neglected, to the point where they are so underinflated that they become so hot that they just give up. Any driver worth his salt should be aware of the change in vehicle handling long before this occurs. Even if a nail penetrates a tyre the tubeless liner tends to seal around the nail so that any air loss is slow. Catastrophic failure of a tyre can really only be caused by impact with some object on the road, which is the fault of the driver, not the tyre. Again, look after your tyres, and they will look after you. :thumbs: :thumbs: Richard (739)
645846 2008-03-03 20:55:00 Sorry SurferJoe, you probably call them 'tires'! ;) Richard (739)
645847 2008-03-03 20:56:00 Sorry SurferJoe, you probably call them 'tires'! ;)

My spell check wanted to change it to that! :p Americanisms.... :yuck: :D
wratterus (105)
645848 2008-03-03 23:00:00 If you can't see that bald tyres belong on the back and not the front then I can't help you.


Bald tires belong NOWHERE...there goes your anal-ocular theories and any respect for your opinions on a subject which you have absolutely NO authority over except for a few personal anecdotes that mean nothing in the real world.

What you thump your chest over is wrong on so many counts that you could be held liable for personal injury and death as an accessory before the fact in a court of law. Please provide the name of your personal barrister, the name of your insurance company and the sum total of your earthly assets in local coin of the realm.
SurferJoe46 (51)
645849 2008-03-03 23:22:00 I have read again the posts in this thread, and some mention tyres having 'blow-outs' . Modern radial tubeless tyres do not blow out unless they are grossly neglected, to the point where they are so underinflated that they become so hot that they just give up . Any driver worth his salt should be aware of the change in vehicle handling long before this occurs . Even if a nail penetrates a tyre the tubeless liner tends to seal around the nail so that any air loss is slow . Catastrophic failure of a tyre can really only be caused by impact with some object on the road, which is the fault of the driver, not the tyre . Again, look after your tyres, and they will look after you . :thumbs: :thumbs:

Correct . . blowouts are really ancient history . . . . but there is one glaring exception:

Radial tires do NOT like to be rotationally challenged .

If you put a used or worn radial tire on a vehicle and don't observe the original rotation, the tire can then separate and the results are what looks like a blow out . . when in reality it was case/cord failure caused by the different rotation/load/demand on the tire . Installers or owners of ignorance cause most tire failures . . either not enough air, a poor quality tire in the first place or overload or not rated for the speed/temperatures in driving the vehicle .

You're right . . tires don't just "blow-out" much any more .

My anecdote here>> I never rotate tires, not even front to rear in the same rotation . I dislike changing anything about the use of a tire once it is established .

Originally if they are installed on the front . . that's where they'll wear out in my book .

I know that the US drives at much higher speeds and for longer periods of time on our tires . . . so it MIGHT be a non-typical condition for youse guys . . . but one can hear the tires of a vehicle that have had a rotation as the tread will now "sing" or rumble a lot . Listen for it next time .

The insurance companies here have issued booklets on the subject of rotation, inflation, use of new-on-the-rear and what's wrong with placing the older tires on the rear . Since they pay the bills for destroyed vehicles and lives, they politely insist that the new tires go on the rear . . . and it doesn't matter if it's a front wheel- or rear wheel drive or the driver's race credentials or what somebody's grandmother did on her covered wagon .

PS: it's kinda easy to tell the rotation of a used tire by the "buzzsaw" tooth patter it will develop . If you gently run your hand over the tread in the direction of the tread . . . not across it, you'll feel that there is a "tooth" to it in one direction but not the other .

The buzzsaw pattern runs into the road . . . just like the rotation of a circular saw blade .
SurferJoe46 (51)
645850 2008-03-03 23:29:00 Dunno, I've always bought 4 tyres at a time. pctek (84)
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