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Thread ID: 87744 2008-03-02 12:38:00 3 phase power motorbyclist (188) PC World Chat
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645679 2008-03-04 05:40:00 The network company (sorry PJ, Power Boards all disappeared in 1994-1998) are allowed 230v +/- 6% at the main switchboard. 390v is well within the range allowed.

that's what i was told too:(

remember though, it is a fairly old machine, so it could be a faulty connection/cable/chip/capacitor somewhere.... though power supply is somewhat easier to determine and remedy

not looking forward to a third round of systematically checking and cleaning all the contacts, relays and cables
motorbyclist (188)
645680 2008-03-04 06:37:00 The network company (sorry PJ, Power Boards all disappeared in 1994-1998) are allowed 230v +/- 6% at the main switchboard. 390v is well within the range allowed.

Thanks Old Friend. When I put the 10% in, I wasnt really sure. It has been such a long time since I was involved in a problem like this. I used to HATE them. Often , rather than an intelligent deductive result, the answer came by sheer luck. I was a very lucky fault finding Leckie. Getting "On Side" with the M/c operater was always a good thing as well, NEVER show them up & they will tell you what Really happened.

I have had trouble with Italian machinery in the past. One brand new m/c into the UK had EVERY wire in RED. Phases, neutral & earth. No cable numbers or identicication. Eventually it was taken out of service & Italian Electrician & myself, completely stripped it out & rewired it. PJ

PS. How are you? PJ
Poppa John (284)
645681 2008-03-04 12:14:00 19 :p

2 years part time experience with this particular machine, capable 2nd year mechatronics engineering student, and been fiddling with PCs/electronics and motorbikes for atleast 5 years now

strictly speaking i'm just the operator, but that lands me with maintentance and bug finding/repair. finally convinced the bosses (family run business) to fork out and get the thing looked at properly by engineers when it became un-usable last week.

so of course that's why i've been asking for advice here. i can't necessarily tell if/when the engineers are bull****ting me/company nor do i know what is considered normal for this sort of industrial power application

just trying to get this running again so i can get back to work, plus as a bonus the experience relates directly to my degree:)
motorbyclist (188)
645682 2008-03-27 12:42:00 ok, guys, time for an update while i remember


a few weeks back we checked the voltages across some of the massive capacitors up by the 3 phase step-up transformer, i assume they had something to do with mains power to alot of things around power supply.

anyway, it seems that once they warmed up a bit, a contact was broken, voltage dropped, and the whole thing crashed.

replaced the dodgy capacitor, and whaddaya know the machine works fine! not a single error since then:D

thanks for all the help guys

(and wtf, that last post of mine is a result of me misreading PJ's post)
motorbyclist (188)
645683 2008-03-28 00:55:00 ok, guys, time for an update while i remember


a few weeks back we checked the voltages across some of the massive capacitors up by the 3 phase step-up transformer, i assume they had something to do with mains power to alot of things around power supply.

anyway, it seems that once they warmed up a bit, a contact was broken, voltage dropped, and the whole thing crashed.

replaced the dodgy capacitor, and whaddaya know the machine works fine! not a single error since then:D

thanks for all the help guys

(and wtf, that last post of mine is a result of me misreading PJ 's post)


Well done. PJ
Poppa John (284)
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