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| Thread ID: 101453 | 2009-07-15 18:35:00 | ISPs as Internet police?? | Knownothing (7989) | Press F1 |
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| 791925 | 2009-07-15 18:35:00 | What's the New Zealand government trying to do now with getting our ISP to check on what we are downloading? E.g. movies and/or songs. If songs are paid for online then they are legit. How will the ISP know that the song has been paid for? If it is said that the downloaded movies/songs are free they are mistaken as in this country we pay for data that we download. E.g. having a 5GB cap for $xx. If the New Zealand government is allowed to do this then where will it end? What are others thoughts please? |
Knownothing (7989) | ||
| 791926 | 2009-07-15 19:43:00 | I have been downloading a few linux distro's lately and they are generally the same size as a movie download so if this goes through and became law I could be penalised for doing something legal | gary67 (56) | ||
| 791927 | 2009-07-15 21:03:00 | Its easy for the ISP's to see whats being download - They can generally see where the packets of data are coming from and going to, along with their content , so if you were downloading music, legally, like Itunes, no worries, if you were downloading Linux or any thing else thats free - same applies. If they "had" to intercept data as a person may be suspected of pirating, they have the means, ISP's keep history of every place you go in the logs. What becomes more harder is when the packets of info are encrypted. Example Close to home: The Mods here can see a persons IP address. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 791928 | 2009-07-15 21:50:00 | If you aren't guilty of anything dodgy then it becomes boring topic. I find it boring and don't care. | pctek (84) | ||
| 791929 | 2009-07-16 07:57:00 | If all I'm allowed to do is check my mail and chat in forums I may as well have the bare minimum data cap, this will impact my ISP's income so I don't see why they would care, unless a complaint had been made. I thought that this was the main change from the last attempt to tighten the copyright laws, that the burden of "proof" has been removed from the ISP and the copyright holders must now lodge a complaint with a persons ISP, who will issue a warning. There may be saints here on PF1, but if you are really moral you'll stay well clear of youtube and sites like it as a large amount of their content is not legal. I would also wager that almost everyone has downloaded a song, or watched tv from overseas using proxies, found a book or two of instruction for that new software you just bought. So whilst it may be illegal, everyone is doing it. The discussion needs to be about new economic models and promoting an ethical web. I can honestly say that i have donated to a developer for the free software that is available...ClamXav springs to mind. Whilst almost no-one will pay the maximum, hopefully everyone will pay something, and if society has the attitude that non payment is wrong, maybe pirating will slow and ideally stop. |
limepile (96) | ||
| 791930 | 2009-07-16 08:15:00 | I question, if it is up to the copyright holders to lay a complaint to the isp, how do they know that Johnny Smith just used bit torrent to download the latest movie? | Tuneznz (13203) | ||
| 791931 | 2009-07-16 08:19:00 | By downloading the same torrent and watching what the rest of the swarm is doing. | Erayd (23) | ||
| 791932 | 2009-07-16 08:25:00 | hmm, that makes scene. So taking Harry potter movies from TPB there is 562 torrents, and thats just from one website. I think that there is, if it tickles your fancy, a good chance that there is no one 'watching' the torrent.... | Tuneznz (13203) | ||
| 791933 | 2009-07-16 08:29:00 | Thats why you should join a private tracker.. | Blam (54) | ||
| 791934 | 2009-07-16 08:33:00 | Anyone know about sneakernets? Lets see them track that so they can report that to whomever. | Tuneznz (13203) | ||
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