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Thread ID: 88036 2008-03-12 23:31:00 Orcon launches the first unbundled service in New Zealand Misty (368) PC World Chat
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648978 2008-03-13 19:29:00 Well on the flipside of the coin you could say that because the new network etc is faster it will eventually allow ISPs to offer greater data caps, because they have capacity for so much more data concurrently (If you allow end-users 24mbps to their house, you've gotta have a MUCH bigger pipe to sustain it all on the off chance you get, say, 50 people trying to max their connection out at once, compared to if you give customers 8mbps to their house)... however, I doubt this would happen until a lot larger area has been upgraded, that is :( Chilling_Silence (9)
648979 2008-03-13 19:30:00 Just re-read what I wrote, its 8:30 in the morning and Ive barely woken up, do I make sense? Chilling_Silence (9)
648980 2008-03-13 21:15:00 Agree with that comment.
It amuses me why people like Misty get so excited about ADSL2 and faster speeds and I wonder how exactly they think it is going to make such a big difference to their life.
Hi Safari
I don't think that I get that excited but I did just happen to hear the broadcast and thought worth checking out and sharing/discussion. The main thing is that eventually it should help towards more competition which I think we all want !
Misty :)
Misty (368)
648981 2008-03-13 21:24:00 Has anyone tried it or heard results from them? Is it actually fast, or is it marketing but actually not fast at all :confused:

Is it Auckland only :confused:

What was the requirement for unbundling - was that faster speeds actually or was it just technically? Was higher usage or unlimited usage part of that or was that not included and we still may have the 5 or 10GB or 2GB limits and then pay for any additional MBs or GBs . I thought unbundling was to make BB internet more accessible to NZders - for a pricetag of $100 is that affordable :p
Nomad (952)
648982 2008-03-13 21:41:00 Hmm ... Auckland only and for the future planned - I saw the website for their future plans. Well ahh ... ok ......

Couldn't find the prices. I did see they still use the word "upto" 24Mbit downstream and "upto" 1Mbit for upstream. But what exactly does "upto" mean :thanks :clap

Will be interesting to see what people really get .. I may even search the net and see any one has tested it or if media companies have done it.
Nomad (952)
648983 2008-03-13 22:51:00 I did see they still use the word "upto" 24Mbit downstream and "upto" 1Mbit for upstream. But what exactly does "upto" mean?

What your line is capable of, (if your within about 1.5km of an ADSL2+ enabled exchange) and how many people are using the service at that particular time. You'd be doing very well to get the full 24mbps.
wratterus (105)
648984 2008-03-13 23:00:00 What your line is capable of, (if your within about 1.5km of an ADSL2+ enabled exchange) and how many people are using the service at that particular time. You'd be doing very well to get the full 24mbps.

But ahh .. woudl they still say, its up to, sorry you are too far away and here is 15Mbit or here is 5Mbit instead :rolleyes:
Nomad (952)
648985 2008-03-13 23:04:00 But ahh... would they still say, its up to, sorry you are too far away and here is 15Mbit or here is 5Mbit instead :rolleyes:

Well technically when they say you will get "up to 24mbps" they are completely correct. They fail to mention the speeds you will actually achieve will most likely be less, but it sounds good when they market it.

Even if you do get 15mbps, you won't be able to take advantage of that most of the time, because the pipe linking NZ to the rest of the world simply isn't big enough. National speeds will be great...but here go the big companies, putting the cart before the horse again... :groan:

I an extremely happy with the speeds I'm getting now with Orcon, and I find downloading internationally, its not my connection that slows down the download. Downloading from Aussie, I can get up to 900kbps constant, normally around 800kbps, but anywhere further away is more in the vicinity of 300 or 400kbps. They should sort the whole country out with that speed with standard ADSL first, get a bigger international link, at the taxpayers expense, then get ADSL2+ going... :rolleyes:
wratterus (105)
648986 2008-03-14 00:00:00 Well technically when they say you will get "up to 24mbps" they are completely correct. They fail to mention the speeds you will actually achieve will most likely be less, but it sounds good when they market it.

Even if you do get 15mbps, you won't be able to take advantage of that most of the time, because the pipe linking NZ to the rest of the world simply isn't big enough. National speeds will be great...but here go the big companies, putting the cart before the horse again... :groan:

I an extremely happy with the speeds I'm getting now with Orcon, and I find downloading internationally, its not my connection that slows down the download. Downloading from Aussie, I can get up to 900kbps constant, normally around 800kbps, but anywhere further away is more in the vicinity of 300 or 400kbps. They should sort the whole country out with that speed with standard ADSL first, get a bigger international link, at the taxpayers expense, then get ADSL2+ going... :rolleyes:

The pipe is big, but it isn't being used to full capacity (the SCC) for a range of silly commercial reasons.
somebody (208)
648987 2008-03-14 00:24:00 Has anyone tried it or heard results from them? Is it actually fast, or is it marketing but actually not fast at all :confused:

Is it Auckland only :confused:


That's a nice change from the TelstraClear shrills from Welington / Christchurch lording it over everone else in the country that they have 10Mbit download speed while you peasents who live in Auckland anly get 3Mbits . .
paulw (1826)
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