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Thread ID: 88294	2008-03-22 16:13:00	Is this another stupid law?	tut (12033)	PC World Chat

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651622	2008-03-23 03:42:00	Why should I when I'm given the information? If I had no idea at all, and I saw a Holden, I'd probably buy it, but if I was told it consumes petrol like hell, I wouldn't buy it. It's good. It gives a potential buyer a rough figure as to how much they'll spend on petrol.That's just dumb! And catering to people who are not intelligent enough to do their own research when buying what is usually the second largest household purchase. If someone is stupid enough to not realise that a large car (rule of thumb) will use more gas than a small car, they shouldn't be o the road in the first place!!!! :groan: :groan: Sick to death of catering to the lowest common denominator - I heard that consumer laws need to take someone of 'average intelligence' into account. Some judge a while back decided that this was someone with an IQ of 60 (from memory - happy to be corrected, but sure it's close to that). Heaven help us if 60 is 'average'!!!! This labelling regulation is worse than useless - it is inaccurate and depends on far too many factors than those in the stipulated "strict conditions". Someone of "average intelligence" won't think past the label....	johcar (6283)
651623	2008-03-23 03:52:00	That's just dumb! And catering to people who are not intelligent enough to do their own research when buying what is usually the second largest household purchase. If someone is stupid enough to not realise that a large car (rule of thumb) will use more gas than a small car, they shouldn't be o the road in the first place!!!! :groan: :groan: Sick to death of catering to the lowest common denominator - I heard that consumer laws need to take someone of 'average intelligence' into account. Some judge a while back decided that this was someone with an IQ of 60 (from memory - happy to be corrected, but sure it's close to that). Heaven help us if 60 is 'average'!!!! This labelling regulation is worse than useless - it is inaccurate and depends on far too many factors than those in the stipulated "strict conditions". Someone of "average intelligence" won't think past the label.... The figure given is only to give us a rough estimate as to how much petrol the car will consume per given kilometer. It won't be something set in concrete a buyer will take into mind. And I don't see how relating someone's ability to drive and his/her knowledge of larger car = more fuel can help you in your argument that he/she cannot drive. Many of my friends are total numbnuts when it comes to computers and game requirements. In this case, more recent games will need better computers to run, and many of my friends doesn't necessarily know that, but they can sure as hell play the games just fine. And why is it such a big fuss? All car salesmen have to do is stick a colorful piece of sticker on the window of a car stating its rough fuel consumption. Surely they wouldn't complain that it takes too much energy to slap on a sticker? If they do, well they're gonna have to rethink their priorities. And that "Average Joe" thing? Well a lot of games say they need a "256MB" video card or whatever size to play, but you're going to kick yourself if you buy a 256MB FX5200 thinking you'll be able to play Crysis with it.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
651624	2008-03-23 04:00:00	The figure given is only to give us a rough estimate as to how much petrol the car will consume per given kilometer . It won't be something set in concrete a buyer will take into mind . And I don't see how relating someone's ability to drive and his/her knowledge of larger car = more fuel can help you in your argument that he/she cannot drive . Many of my friends are total numbnuts when it comes to computers and game requirements . In this case, more recent games will need better computers to run, and many of my friends doesn't necessarily know that, but they can sure as hell play the games just fine . You're right it won't be 'set in concrete', but because the numbers will be in front of the purchaser, most will not bother to think that they may not be accurate, or are accurate only in certain circumstances . I was relating the ability to drive and the ability to think for oneself . Driving isn't (or shouldn't be) an activity to carry out without the need to think about what you are doing - however judging by many drivers around Auckland, I would have to say that most ARE in this frame of mind . . . Playing a computer game and driving a car have totally different outcomes if you make a misjudgement . One can be potentially life-threatening (and I don't know too many computer games that can have that result :D) .	johcar (6283)
651625	2008-03-23 04:11:00	the numbers will be in front of the purchaser, most will not bother to think that they may not be accurate, or are accurate only in certain circumstances I for once will never take a salesman's words on a touchy subject to mind. If a buyer ever does so, then he/she deserves to think that a Holden is one of the most fuel conservative cars out there. I'd like to use the sticker as another POV, meaning I'll go to the caryard looking for a certain car, look at its fuel consumption sticker, go home and do my own research. If the home research results prove to look worse than the caryard's, then I'm not going back to that caryard - the salesman is being deceptive about the car's fuel economy.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
651626	2008-03-23 04:20:00	Ah! But you're obviously not of 'average' intelligence...	johcar (6283)
651627	2008-03-23 04:23:00	It would seem the Government policy of “Dumbing down the Nation” is official . I just wonder how much all this useless research cost the taxpayer and how many patients on Hospital waiting lists the money could have helped? :mad: I figure the incumbent Government is seeing how many stupid laws it can pass before it gets the big heave-ho . Let’s hope the next one cuts back on all this nonsense .	B.M. (505)
651628	2008-03-23 04:24:00	Ah! But you're obviously not of 'average' intelligence... Well I guess that makes me feel better. :D	qazwsxokmijn (102)
651629	2008-03-23 06:12:00	Car fuel consumption tests are done on a rolling road at a constant speed of 56mph (89.6kph) and have no comparison at all to normal driving conditions but they do still serve a purpose even if all it does is say this car uses more fuel than that car.	gary67 (56)
651630	2008-03-23 06:47:00	Car fuel consumption tests are done on a rolling road at a constant speed of 56mph (89 . 6kph) and have no comparison at all to normal driving conditions but they do still serve a purpose even if all it does is say this car uses more fuel than that car . Wow, what interesting test parameters . I wonder how many drivers in NZ drive at 89 . 6kph on a rolling road . :groan: 0 . 1% dare I suggest? (The idiots in the test vehicles) :D To think that such useless information requires legislation to make sure we are all aware of such a discovery of national importance . :angry	B.M. (505)
651631	2008-03-23 07:03:00	This is a great idea for lawyers, because it gives the opportunity for new litigation business when the car fails to meet up with the fuel consumption advised at the time of sale. Remember you voted for them - you get the governmemt you deserve. May I ask as to how you KNOW who voted for whom? So as I remember it I did not vote for the current Government. I did not vote for any list MP. I use a 2 litre engine capacity vehicle. In the event I wanted to drive a v8 then I would pay for the maintainence and fuel. No traffic lights or gridlock where I live either!	Sweep (90)
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