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| Thread ID: 88555 | 2008-03-31 21:20:00 | OOXML & ISO. | Murray P (44) | PC World Chat |
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| 654717 | 2008-03-31 21:20:00 | I popped over here to check out the comments regarding the International Standards voting shenanigans on OOXML . . . . . nothing! I guess nobody over here understands the implications of what's been going on over the past few months and in particular the last week and few days . Or perhaps you don't really care, which really equates to not understanding, because if you did you would care or, horror of horrors (pass the tin foil), you've been corrupted too . So perhaps I can jolt you from your ignorance/torpor/corruption, what do the boys & girls of PF1 think? Are you happy that a standard may be implemented by way of what appears to be shady dealings and vote rigging? (BTW, NZ voted against) . What do you think of OOXML as a standard when, given that it has been well documented that it is actually a specification and a badly broken one at that and, you or I or a software developer won't actually be able to work with or implement the 'standard' in its entirety because of the built in restrictions? Following on from the above, do you understand what a standard is, what it is for and, do you think having two standards for essentially the same thing is a good idea? (ODF is the incumbent standard, it can be used by everybody including the authors and submitters of OOXML . ISO's own rules state that there must be only one standard per strain of task) . Lastly, but not least . Can you lick your own elbow? |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 654718 | 2008-03-31 23:33:00 | Lastly, but not least. Can you lick your own elbow? Gene Simmons probably could. |
bob_doe_nz (92) | ||
| 654719 | 2008-04-01 00:06:00 | I've been following this on Slashdot (slashdot.org), rather than here - there seems to be a lot more interest. There have also been a number of interesting posts on Groklaw. Edit: This morning's (tech.slashdot.org) article on Slashdot (Norway's Yes-to-OOXML is Formally Protested) doesn't appear to have made the search index yet. |
Erayd (23) | ||
| 654720 | 2008-04-01 00:51:00 | Gene Simmons probably could. Are you implying you can't? |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 654721 | 2008-04-01 01:10:00 | is there any incentive scheme - i.e. ice-creamed elbow? Naturally enough I take the opposing side to MS in any debate. If a politician (any) also opposes the MS view, I am faced with a dilemma and am forced to find a third option or abstain. |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 654722 | 2008-04-01 01:14:00 | I've been following this on Slashdot ( . org/search . pl?tid=&query=ooxml&author=&sort=1&op=stories" target="_blank">slashdot . org), rather than here - there seems to be a lot more interest . There have also been a number of interesting posts on Groklaw . Edit: This morning's ( . slashdot . org/article . pl?sid=08/03/31/200201" target="_blank">tech . slashdot . org) article on Slashdot (Norway's Yes-to-OOXML is Formally Protested) doesn't appear to have made the search index yet . I've had a look at the Reg, www . nooxml . org, gROKLAW and a couple of other sites . It makes for grim reading whatever you leanings are in respect to MS, Open Sauce, et al . What I find most troubling is the undermining of the standards process (read ISO in this instance) and the corollary, damage to standards organisations and the standards they administer on our behalf as people participating in various industries and end users . Perhaps "undermining" is too weak a term to use, this 'standard' is flawed on technical, political and moral/bordering on criminal grounds due to the nefarious goings on in various standards committees around the world . As someone who deals with codes and standards as the basis of my work, it gives me the shi . . . shivers to think that standards can be played fast and loose at the hands of a bit of lobbying, stacking committees, arm twisting, spin (lies?) and possibly a few millions thrown at a few people . Of course any system that allows the stacking of committees with (expediently) interested parties is open to abuse . The last time that happened here with any great impact was the changing of the standard that allowed untreated timber to be used in house framing, to disastrous consequences) . This time around, on a world scale, the detrimental consequences have the probabilty to be nuch more serious . |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 654723 | 2008-04-01 01:17:00 | is there any incentive scheme - i.e. ice-creamed elbow? Naturally enough I take the opposing side to MS in any debate. If a politician (any) also opposes the MS view, I am faced with a dilemma and am forced to find a third option or abstain. Success is its own reward grasshopper. The 3rd option is to lick your elbow. It's the middle ground alternative to licking, in this case, MS's back orifice. |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 654724 | 2008-04-01 02:12:00 | Ok, no other takers? You all have my pity, apathy is a terrible affliction, even worse than ignorance. |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 654725 | 2008-04-01 05:13:00 | Actually I'd like to retract my previous comment . Ignorance can be ameliorated, it is stupidity that deserves the pity . |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 654726 | 2008-04-01 06:06:00 | That was almost a quote from "The Emperor's Club" - have you seen that film? | Erayd (23) | ||
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