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Thread ID: 88459 2008-03-28 02:51:00 On Campbell Live tonite - "Motorcycle rules revved up" johcar (6283) PC World Chat
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653540 2008-03-30 03:04:00 +1 for everything foxymx and metla have said here

especially about dirt riding teaching you how to crash and how to avoid a crash. if it wasn't for my years on dirtbikes i can think of atleast 4 times when i would've crashed my bike due to traction loss. every now and then i have newbie riders from the uni club with bad records come over and have a blat where falling isn't an issue. they all reckon it helps alot, plus is the best fun they've ever had.


and for all you car drivers out there, especially the ones driving unneccessarily large 4WD vehicles, the phrase "sorry i didn't see you" doesn't change the fact that A: they are likely hurt, B: you'd better be insured, and C: you weren't even looking

please, please look out for bikes. we do all we can to keep safe yet all it takes is an oil patch, diesel spill, or nudge from a car and we're sliding/flying down the road

(of course if the idiot is splitting traffic at 80kph in a 50 kph zone that's a different story)
motorbyclist (188)
653541 2008-03-30 20:54:00 Most bike accidents are single vehicle events,

Really? Is that true??
Chilling_Silence (9)
653542 2008-03-30 21:34:00 Not according to this site www.rideforever.co.nz PaulD (232)
653543 2008-03-31 06:05:00 Really? Is that true??

That is the argument put forward by the safety nut jobs at Kiwibiker, Most notably Katman and Dip****, I'm not going to vouch for the validity of their information based on the fact I consider them both to be fools....But I don't really see it being contested by the big guns over there.

You could always ask them where they get their info?
Metla (12)
653544 2008-03-31 06:07:00 thing is, nobody reports the accident when it's single vehicle only unless they hurt themselves.

likewise, all the car vs bike crash statistics fail to report the number of "near misses" where the biker has had to take evasive action and escaped harm by mere millimetres
motorbyclist (188)
653545 2008-03-31 06:29:00 Yep, Those stats are worthless, Crap happens every day that never gets reported, Those wouldn't even be the tip of the tip of the iceberg. Metla (12)
653546 2008-03-31 06:30:00 Driving to do a job in Motueka today got overtaken by big touring bike rider was wearing jeans, jandles and a T shirt doing over 100km gary67 (56)
653547 2008-03-31 07:15:00 and it's idiots like that who give the rest of us a bad name and excessive acc levies on bike registration ($270 for 12 months)

remember taking that individual as representative of the whole biker population would be like bikers assuming all car drivers to be boy racers driving lowered honda civics
motorbyclist (188)
653548 2008-03-31 17:50:00 Yes I know I have several friends who ride bikes and cycles here and they are all very safety conscious, pity about the idiot temporary NZ'ers they certainly do give the rest of us a bad name. gary67 (56)
653549 2008-04-01 10:45:00 had a near miss today. i was turning right into a side street. the woman turning right out of the side street both failed to stop for a stop sign, failed to actually look for traffic, and thus failed to give way. i hope having a bike, horn blazing, swerve around her bonnet gave her as much of a fright as it did me. motorbyclist (188)
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