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Thread ID: 88493 2008-03-29 09:05:00 Do you run your computer on candle power? Sweep (90) PC World Chat
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654013 2008-03-30 04:05:00 no i'm all for action to slow global warming as best we can, but simply turning off the lights and postponing using your PC for an hour in a country that already uses mostly renewable power isn't going to make a difference, nor "raise awareness"

and wouldn't candle burning release CO2?
Not if you burn the candle underwater. The CO2 will be absorbed and used by fish for making lemonade. Methods of lighting the candle are a detail I leave to others with more time on their hands. :nerd:
R2x1 (4628)
654014 2008-03-30 05:24:00 There’s a classic editorial in our local paper where the Editor is suggesting the planet could best be saved by an international “Hold Your Breath” day. :lol:

The reduction in CO2 emissions would be immense.

Those concerned about Global Warming and Climate Change should of course lead the way and hold theirs for a full 24hrs. Al Gore, being so committed to the cause, should hold his for a week.

The first 24hr test run will produce invaluable data.

A date has yet to be set for the experiment, but the sooner the better. :thumbs:
B.M. (505)
654015 2008-03-30 06:49:00 isn't going to make a difference, nor "raise awareness"



Ok, so you don't think so, but I do (well raise awareness anyway) . Ok, lets run a poll . . . second thoughts better not . . . too many polls . The sample size wouldn't be bit enough anyway .
dolby digital (5073)
654016 2008-03-30 10:46:00 how could it possible raise awareness? there's already total saturation in the media, politics, even education!

maybe if everyone wasn't already "aware" of the theory behind global warming it would raise awareness, but that simply isn't that case.

and to actually make people accept it as true is not something this will achieve in any way, if the absolute ignorance and arrogance of some of the critics is anything to go by (not directed at anyone in particular)
motorbyclist (188)
654017 2008-03-30 13:12:00 Which, of course, takes us back to the question of "Global Warming - are we causing it?" and "Can we do something about it?"

Not causing, contributing certainly. Able to stop it? Don't be so arrogant! You are up against nature. People have tried to tame nature before. No-one has yet succeeded. Does anyone really think that switching off for such a small period of time (or even for a long period) will even scratch the surface? Arrogance personified!

If all you switch off your lights at the same time, perhaps you might overload the system? Hopefully they switched off some of the generators?

It all has that "feel good" notion about it but little else.:groan:

It may be time I got the air pistol out again and shoot all white butterflies as they may cause a wind or they may eat my self grown veges. Some of said butterflies argue with the truck I drive and die as a result. Next time I meet one of these on the road I may swerve and take a person out.

www.tv3.co.nz

In the event any person takes the time to look at the above news article then I do wonder how the hundreds of people travelled to see the lights turned off. Hopefully they walked and no person actually emitted wind through the anus.

Just as well I like my steak blue. That way I can toss it over a candle on each side and will be cooked.
Sweep (90)
654018 2008-03-30 14:49:00 biodegradable soy-based candles were used to light a top end hotel.

WTF would you need bio-degradable candles?

YOU BURN THEM ***


and so after everyone went driving to look at the view, or visit each other's dinner parties, did they not then use the tumble dryer and sit infront of the TV while the fridge re-chilled itself?

biggest and most sensible power/emissions saving a place like christchurch could make is by better insulating homes and simply wearing more clothing (and using more balnkets) to save on winter heating

and/or everyone with a commute under 5 km buys a bicycle and uses it regularly
motorbyclist (188)
654019 2008-03-31 05:08:00 how could it possible raise awareness? there's already total saturation in the media, politics, even education!

maybe if everyone wasn't already "aware" of the theory behind global warming it would raise awareness, but that simply isn't that case .

and to actually make people accept it as true is not something this will achieve in any way, if the absolute ignorance and arrogance of some of the critics is anything to go by (not directed at anyone in particular)

I think you are taking it too seriously . Its more about doing something small which when taking across thousands of households, makes a difference . Forget about global warming for the moment, its saving some power (which means the power companies lose some revenue :D ) .

Anyway, I don't think you can speak for the average Josephine Blow in the street . I do accept that global warning is too much in the media .
dolby digital (5073)
654020 2008-03-31 06:14:00 I thought Earth Hour was more of an advertising gimmick than any thing.

I really don't think it saved anything.

Our local Christchurch paper "The Press" put out a 20 page Earth hour insert.
19 pages were advertising, it weighed 51 grams and they have a subscription base of 89,000 that's 4.5 Tonnes of paper to be recycled, not including a full page ad for it every day for the past 6 weeks (probably another 4.5 tonnes worth).

There is about 360,000 people in Christchurch and if only 20% used torches and they only flattened 1 AA battery each, that would be over 1.5 tonnes of batteries to go into land fill.

Who knows how much pollution (and CO2 gas) would be created by 150,000 people lighting candles.

And did they really save 12.8%? Did any one ask Transpower what they did with it? If I remember my electricity lessons, Transpower would have needed to put at least some of that into spinning reserve. Thats electricity that is used to motor over a generator (wasted energy) so when the load comes back on they can instantly divert the energy from motoring the generator and put it back into the National Grid.

Please Earth Hour people, I'm glad you have a warm fuzzy feeling now, but please stop ruining our planet!
porkster (6331)
654021 2008-04-01 03:54:00 I thought Earth Hour was more of an advertising gimmick than any thing .

I really don't think it saved anything .

Our local Christchurch paper "The Press" put out a 20 page Earth hour insert .
19 pages were advertising, it weighed 51 grams and they have a subscription base of 89,000 that's 4 . 5 Tonnes of paper to be recycled, not including a full page ad for it every day for the past 6 weeks (probably another 4 . 5 tonnes worth) .




Of course The Press is a business . Businesses attempt to make money . Historically no thought was given to the effect on the environment . This is the case here .
dolby digital (5073)
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