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| Thread ID: 88561 | 2008-04-01 00:33:00 | When asked to submit your bag for inspection by security upon leaving a retail store | legod (4626) | PC World Chat |
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| 654863 | 2008-04-09 19:51:00 | Exactly! Very well said.:clap You have the right to say no. You have the right to your privacy. I have heard of some who try to coerce you with the, "If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about," approach. It is a manipulative technique, implying that if you want privacy, you must be doing something criminal. It's nonsense. Everybody has something to hide. We are all entitled to the same human right called privacy. Privacy has been the right of New Zealanders for the last 60 years. NZ subscribed to the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights which includes privacy as one of its articles. So tell the "rentacop" politely, to go away. Why? I know you are morally right and make a valid point but if they persist, what are you going to say. "Ooohhh... I'm a law abiding citizen and I'm a good boy and I've done nothing wrong so you cant look in my bag" It would take him 5 seconds, unless you've left your rented porn videos in there what is the problem. Privacy is a misnomer - we have none. Type your name in google. IRD know everything about you, there's even a mobile service where you can text your name to and they reportedly can tell you things as well (although I reckon thats a scam) Isnt there some people here who have owned or own stores have commented that they wouldnt allow someone to check their bags - if that is so please publish your business address here. If you dont allow other stores check your bag then stands to reason you wouldnt check shoppers bags that visit your store. If you see someone shoplifting are you saying you would not ask to check their bag? I doubt it. As I stated before, these actions are not to victimise the innocent but to catch the guilty - unless you can come up with another system, deal with it. The alternative is for stores to raise prices to compensate the loss. I bet if they did you would whinge about price hikes. |
sam m (517) | ||
| 654864 | 2008-04-09 20:05:00 | There are alot of alternatives, cameras are great, you get somebody on film stealing then you could approach them, if you set off the door scanners then something is up aint it, you actually see someone taking something etc... But what happens when randomly asked to search your belongings? As for no privacy I still have mine, I'd like to see a rentacop try and take it. |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 654865 | 2008-04-09 20:41:00 | There are alot of alternatives, cameras are great, you get somebody on film stealing then you could approach them, if you set off the door scanners then something is up aint it, you actually see someone taking something etc... But what happens when randomly asked to search your belongings? As for no privacy I still have mine, I'd like to see a rentacop try and take it. Rentacop doesnt care who you are and does not want your privacy, their only interest is protecting the stores merchandise - it is their job and it is a shame that it involves checking your bag. I would say next time you see a store with a security guard you should boycott that store and shop elsewhere. The prices might be higher but at least you are protecting your privacy. Camera survelliance is not an option for all stores. There is a cost to have these monitored and that cost would be passed onto the consumer. As you know I am of a minority race in this country and I have probably been checked a lot more than most here, I am speculating. I do acknowledge the reason for this is because people of my colour are probably high perpetrators, again I am speculating. A while ago a group of us went shopping for a wedding gift, as soon as we entered the store a young assistant 'tailed' us while we were there. We didnt buy anything, not because of that action but it has bugged me for a long time now. Just thinking about it more, a check might take a few seconds and your gone however if you did deny a check and you did kick up a fuss, what do you think would happen next. Management may get involved, you would attract a lot of attention by other shoppers and some might even recognise you. The police might get involved and they will probably ask for your name.....are you still protecting your privacy? |
sam m (517) | ||
| 654866 | 2008-04-09 20:50:00 | I asked a couple of mates if they have been asked, they said yes, at the warehouse alot, they say they just ignore them and walk away, is the store cop going to risk their job or a possible court case of chasing you if you have done nothing wrong? But like I said earlier I myself havent been asked. So really I dont know. I'd probably laugh and still ignore them. |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
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