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Thread ID: 88561	2008-04-01 00:33:00	When asked to submit your bag for inspection by security upon leaving a retail store	legod (4626)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
654843	2008-04-02 19:54:00	Checks such as these are an unfortunate response to the action of a few. If a police stop check asked to see your licence or perform random breath tests will you tell them no. I doubt it. Just deal with it - it is societies way of saying, some of us are bad, most are good. Lets make sure the bad dont get away with it.	sam m (517)
654844	2008-04-02 19:55:00	i do this: . com/watch?v=96OljGZapv4" target="_blank">youtube . com :lol: not really but to be honest ive never asked to have my bags searched at all - been asked once to show a receipt to prove ive bought something but thats it Great video . LOL . Thanks .	Strommer (42)
654845	2008-04-02 21:49:00	dunno, first I rapidly think has any thing fallen in the bag? Did I put somthing in the bag I did not purchase? Am I in trouble? seccondly if you did steal prepare to explain or run!:cool: :sleep	VISTA PRO (13532)
654846	2008-04-03 09:43:00	Exercise is good . Run, they can get a bit of exercise chasing you . When they catch you, shoot them, and explain you were being pursued by a homicidal sex maniac . It fills in a dull afternoon quite well . (BTW, asking if you can have the ears for your trophy cabinet may reduce sympathy from officialdom . )	R2x1 (4628)
654847	2008-04-03 19:50:00	Great video. LOL. Thanks. yeah its a funny video - i wouldn't try it myself though as id end up screwing it up badly and only make things worse for myself :horrified	MAC_H8ER (5897)
654848	2008-04-03 23:14:00	Certainly sounds correct to me . I don't think that even the police can search you without your consent unless they suspect you are carrying drugs or you have been arrested . . Police may search your car or person without a warrant if you are found with prohibited drugs or they have good reason to believe that you have drugs . Other than that, it is more or less by consent or by warrant as the case may be . I have allowed a patrol to check the back of may work car one night after getting stopped, I had drifted under the speed limit and with the back of the wagon loaded with expensive gear, the usual questions, where had I been, going to, a quick radio call to confirm I was working for who I claimed and away I went, everyone happy . I have heard that the signs inside stores advising the shops right to inspect your bags have little legal standing if you wanted to push it to make a point and refuse to allow them to search your bag . We were stopped leaving the Warehouse one afternoon after buying stuff, they wanted us to lift a sleeping baby out of the pram so they could look under the sheepskin . Male security . His attitude was high and mighty . Mum went off the deep end, no way in the world was she going to wake up a baby . Managerment were called and threatened to call the police which they did, female officer came after a further delay, spoke to us very nicely and off we went without any search the pram while she went to have words with the Warehouse Security and Manager . Police Officer was not amused .	PinoyKiw (9675)
654849	2008-04-05 08:04:00	wheres the "claim that you have never seen the items in your bag before" answer ? personally, i usally leave my bag at the door, or costumer enquries desk, apart from that i'm too stealth:clap	ice (12957)
654850	2008-04-06 00:27:00	Anybody seen Bean the Ultimate Disaster Movie? I love it, walking along in the airport, nothing in his jacket but his hand... brilliant!	Chilling_Silence (9)
654851	2008-04-06 13:02:00	When I leave the store with goods that fairly and squarely belong to me, the onus is hardly on me to prove it to anybody . If anything, the onus is on any person alleging or even suggesting that the goods are not mine to prove that they are not . what? you buy goods from a store, given receipt as proof . upon leaving you are asked to show a receipt for an item . no receipt for item means no record of purchase of that item - if you have other records fine, but it's their money you're wasting or possibly taking because you couldn't hold a bit of paper for 2 minutes, or are a genuine theif . of course in court they have to prove you stole the goods, but in the shop they can't be expected to let you walk without some sort of clarification of the matter . they have to deal with theft somehow . i don't see how you can walk into a store that warns you they reserve the right to search bags and then refuse to have your bags searched . seems like you think you're above their rules that they set when you walked into their store because you know you aren't a thief - ever considered the fact they don't know that? look at it from their point of view . camera spots what may have been a theft, reported to security to check it out, security confronts possible theif, suspect gets all defensive and refuses to allow the staff to check what the story is . of course staff could be expected to assume suspect had something to hide! just remember that if they don't combat theft, it will cost you more and more money to cover their losses	motorbyclist (188)
654852	2008-04-06 23:43:00	they have to deal with theft somehow . i don't see how you can walk into a store that warns you they reserve the right to search bags and then refuse to have your bags searched . seems like you think you're above their rules that they set when you walked into their store because you know you aren't a thief - ever considered the fact they don't know that? look at it from their point of view . camera spots what may have been a theft, reported to security to check it out, security confronts possible theif, suspect gets all defensive and refuses to allow the staff to check what the story is . of course staff could be expected to assume suspect had something to hide! just remember that if they don't combat theft, it will cost you more and more money to cover their losses Quite agree, they do have to deal with theft . We all know and understand that, but they cannot set rules that they have no legal authority to carry out . As I said before: even the police can't search you unless they suspect you have drugs or have arrested you . These people are not above the law . And because you stand up for your rights they might believe that you have something to hide . That is most probably true . Everyone has something to hide, but that still does not give them the right to be above the law . Even if they are certain that the person has stolen goods in their bag that still does not give them any right to search you . Once again, even the police can not do that . As I understand it, they cannot accuse anyone of theft until they have left the premises otherwise the suspect could use the excuse that they forgot to pay for the goods . I think that you may not be accused of theft until you are out the door, but that still does not give them the right to search you . Still not certain if they have any right to detain you, but somehow I don't think so . You can understand their point of view, but they still have to obey the law in the same way as everybody else .	Roscoe (6288)
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