Forum Home
PC World Chat
Thread ID: 88609	2008-04-02 05:24:00	NZ/s Asian tolerance	qazwsxokmijn (102)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
655556	2008-04-07 08:36:00	I'm more open about being selfish. I mean it happens from all people. Some people may do savings to get their computer, that car or that cellphone. Some people are on the dole and get the government to pay the tow truck fine, some get them to fix their car because its unworthy and they are unable to attend classes or job interviews. Some bugger off to London or Sydney after university. Some purchse Auckland shares from their student loans. Think of what one does when we go to the petrol station, the supermarket while a child ask for candy, that job interview and what job you target and accept. Think of restricted courses. The loans, the credit cards, the house mortgage. Gordon Ramsay said if you want to be successful you have to be selfish. Sterotypically we have heard of Brits and what they complain about when they go abroad .. As a side note, if you are energetic. You can do lots of things. Life becomes not just work and home. If you are passionate, you can do night school just out of interest or an hobby, we can say get into programming or web publishing or photography, sports, cuisine, learn a trade skill. With 5 other members a mixed of ethnicities and age groups, our photography club won the nationally competed cup. I'm quite open. The reason I travel out of NZ apart from landscape interest which the South Island can be of some interest, is that by going abroad you are able to get a whole foreign picture. I stay at Backpackers and able to meet up with foreign travelers easier. Last time I went to Europe, I met a friend at Tokyo, I was provided free accomodation in Paris. Her grandmother is German, her mother is French, her dad is Chinese and she speaks 4 different language and been schooled in 4 countries. Great location, just a 20min walk to Notre Dame beside the Seine River. I will in return provide accomodation should the destination be NZ.	Nomad (952)
655557	2008-04-07 08:43:00	pay your own way. Veale Well, why don't all we Asians leave and see how this guy's going to survive the plummeting economy. ;)	qazwsxokmijn (102)
655558	2008-04-07 08:55:00	Yeah! Don't tell me I'm taking your job when hardly anyone applied for it. :groan:	bob_doe_nz (92)
655559	2008-04-07 09:59:00	Written english was obviously not high on your homework priority list....... The regulars here of all cultures have a far better grasp of the English language than a lot of kiwis I have met. Manners do count unless you are so good at your job you can be obnoxious as you like & your employer can't afford to replace you.	Greven (91)
655560	2008-04-07 10:11:00	Yeah! Don't tell me I'm taking your job when hardly anyone applied for it. :groan: to true, I have never met an Asian that wasn't hard working. Always work like they owned the company. As for Indians I have had nothing but bad experiences with them, probably because they didn't own the company	plod (107)
655561	2008-04-07 10:12:00	TV3 News today has reported that NZ First MP fears of too many Asians . Now, being Asian myself, I want to know what the average New Zealanders think of Asians in NZ in general . After having lived here for over 8 years, I have grown to embrace all races equally, though I do in some ways find things to complain about, even my own race, the Chinese . The thing I absolutely hate the most is how some Asians tend to scream and shout in public places in their own languages . I guess it applies to all foreign languages, but I hear Asians doing so mostly . Not only that, many Asians still decide to not integrate into NZ society and remain reclusive from other races and congregate with their own people and make little or no effort to befriend someone of another race . I find that extremely rude and arrogant . In general, all this applies to the young Asians - the generation which predominantly matters for the future . Older Asians, the fathers and mothers etc find it much harder to integrate due to language barriers and different social structures . I have to say I'm quite the opposite of the many young Asians who remain reclusive from other races . My friends diverse in race, from Italians to other Asians, from Hungarians to a couple of Brazillians (god they're rare) and of course, the genuine kiwis . And I take pride in having a diverse range of friends, as I believe mixing cultures will promote tolerance . It's just that it's so hard for people like me to avoid discrimination because there are still many Asians who refuse to venture from their own race . Now, I want to know what everybody else thinks of this subject . Please, this thread can turn volatile, so review your post before submitting if you have second thoughts . Well, I've known you for a while now qazwsxokmijn (won't say your real name in case you don't want that info . publicly available) and gotta say, you are one of those people that 'scream and shout' in your language . That really pissed me off when we'd all be talking or something and randomly you'd start talking in your language which only one other person of our group could understand . It's kind of intentional exclusion of everyone and no one from our group could ever understand why you guys would do that out of no where . Don't hold it against you ofcourse, and you're not the only ones that do it either, I know of people of my own race that do this, as well as heaps others . Personally, I don't really look at people by their race or gender or anything, most problems are not really a race related issue but more according to that individual . The fact is, that most people only really notice bad stuff when asian people do it . I always hear people moaning about "that slow asian driver" they saw in the weekend (most common), never ever heard of anyone complain of "that slow caucasian/indian/samoan/maori driver" , most people just have a habbit of picking on the asians . I've never really had trouble making asian friends either actually, I'd have to say the vast majority of my good friends are asian people . From what I've found, they're generally more accepting of other people than most 'kiwi' people - no offense meant to anyone, but you can very easily feel when you are welcome or not when you are around people . Best example for this is that from my experience at work (don't want to release such information on the internet of where I work, just to say what it is) in retail, I have so many times given people advice on things, given them tips etc . and they don't believe it until a caucasian person tells them so (even if all they're doing is repeating word for word what I've just said) . It really surprises me how the same person can have such a defensive/narrow minded approach towards me, but can treat someone else who they never met before but is of the same race with topmost respect . They (asians) do have their groups (just like most other immigrants) but what makes the government think that New Zealands society is ready to accept asian people? They're just not given enough respect to feel like they belong here, thats all, but I can agree that the elderly ones can be very bitter on first approach but once you show them that you do respect them just as everyone else, you will be surprised how friendly they can become . Just from part time work, I have established by now quite a few chinese/korean clients that will very loyally come only on the one day of the week that I work and ask for me by name just because they appreciate a person that can know them before labeling them . Simple answer is that at least from my experience in Auckland, it is a very racist society and can be pretty hard to get along in as a foreigner . I'm Indian, which I think is classified technically as South Asian and it may not be the same asian you're talking about here but when we came here about 13 years ago, we were treated with major disprespect, and we even knew the language pretty well since it is taught in our country! It was more difficult for my parents to get a job and I remember them having a really hard time getting along with the others where ever they worked . Admittedly, society has opened up a bit since then, but it still has a long, long way to go before New Zealand can just rule out all other factors and say it is only group XX that is problematic . As ninjabear has already said "If you are wanting to discourage people like asians from coming to NZ . It pretty much shows how nice the government in NZ are" . -100% agreed .	Deathwish (143)
655562	2008-04-07 10:59:00	Talking about racist bullies . When I was in Form 6 there was this western guy, who was a slacker and said that if he got like a D grade he would be happy with himself . Anyway, after a gym session and we were getting changed, he started calling names and spitting at my face . I reacted, ok, I didn't flatten him but I did try get a swing at him but he protected himself . I wasn't the only one he was hassling too . He was hassling other western students . One of the student was hassled so much, he took up Taekwondo, who now works in a NZ computer company - unsure what he does thou . Then one time I walked into the common room to get my stuff and said, who smells? . I flipped and gave me him right hook in the head and he just went in shock and curled up and protected himself with his hands . I didn't hit him hard at all . People said I may of gave him a black eye or that I would get in trouble . No one of authority spoke to me . Other students were on my side and some even congratulated me . After that in a lesson he actually said hi and waved to me . End of that year, he left the school . When I was at uni, via friends I looked that their year book and found that he had move there . I found that no one at the school really liked him .	Nomad (952)
655563	2008-04-07 11:06:00	Talking about racist bullies . When I was in Form 6 there was this western guy, who was a slacker and said that if he got like a D grade he would be happy with himself . Anyway, after a gym session and we were getting changed, he started calling names and spitting at my face . I reacted, ok, I didn't flatten him but I did try get a swing at him but he protected himself . I wasn't the only one he was hassling too . He was hassling other western students . One of the student was hassled so much, he took up Taekwondo, who now works in a NZ computer company - unsure what he does thou . Then one time I walked into the common room to get my stuff and said, who smells? . I flipped and gave me him right hook in the head and he just went in shock and curled up and protected himself with his hands . I didn't hit him hard at all . People said I may of gave him a black eye or that I would get in trouble . No one of authority spoke to me . Other students were on my side and some even congratulated me . After that in a lesson he actually said hi and waved to me . End of that year, he left the school . When I was at uni, via friends I looked that their year book and found that he had move there . I found that no one at the school really liked him . lol nice . Sounds like the book 'The Power of One' by Bryce Courtenay if youve ever read that . What with the boxing action and all :P	Deathwish (143)
655564	2008-04-07 11:30:00	Then one time I walked into the common room to get my stuff and said, who smells?. I flipped and gave me him right hook in the head and he just went in shock and curled up and protected himself with his hands. You sound like the bully here. You asked who smelled and then punched some guy? What a ****ed up thing to do.	roddy_boy (4115)
655565	2008-04-07 11:51:00	Even if it was the "bully" who asked "who smells", what sort of person assaults someone else over such a petty comment? sounds to me like the guy was lacking a few social skills and it was probably just a misguided attempt at interacting with you. I wouldn't want you "flipping out" and smacking any of my kids around.	Metla (12)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21