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Thread ID: 88758	2008-04-08 08:01:00	Reality of jobseeking	Nomad (952)	PC World Chat

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657066	2008-04-08 08:01:00	Hi, I am between jobs . Just want to know your views . When you apply for jobs do you just apply to jobs you really like and know you can do? I been looking at the adverts, and organisation's do hype them up . I been in the workforce and people just get on with each other and help each other along . Many jobs are so so, they are the office admin, asst jobs, analyst roles . Same type of bell boy if you know what I mean . Even the senior members just do the same thing, at the end of the day you are just fulfiling a job that satisfies CEOs, General Managers, or your direct manager but when she/he gets feedback from them we just readjust the job so it meets that . . . . Do you try to sell yourself even if the job might be a bit higher than yourself, if you sorta know how to do it but not really, do you say you do . . . Is a job, just another job . Of course, the exception may be for self employers, or those who have an job of thier real interest like computers, writing, art, music, sports . . . . . .	Nomad (952)
657067	2008-04-08 08:09:00	Well, for me I'll rather do something I already know. Instead of starting all over again, with something new I tried places like seek a while ago. Pointless if u ask me. Upload your CV, it goes into cyberspace somewhere. Got no calls from them or whoever they passed the CV to. I spose it doesnt help when even tho I look in the papers / online, that I've got no quals etc. So, what I already know, and what I've done. That'll have to do.	Speedy Gonzales (78)
657068	2008-04-08 08:18:00	Many jobs are so so, they are the office admin, asst jobs, analyst roles. Same type of bell boy if you know what I mean. Even the senior members just do the same thing, at the end of the day you are just fulfiling a job that satisfies CEOs, General Managers, or your direct manager but when she/he gets feedback from them we just readjust the job so it meets that ....If this is the type of work you have been doing, it obviously doesn't give you any interest. Have you considered getting some training in a different field or perhaps just trying something else for a change? Do you try to sell yourself even if the job might be a bit higher than yourself, if you sorta know how to do it but not really, do you say you do ...There is a big difference in being confident of yourself and abilities and BS a future employer about your honest abilities. It will be found out. It would be better to say that while you don't have a lot of XYZ experience, you do have the ability to learn quickly and give examples of previous work you have achieved that is similar. Is a job, just another job. Of course, the exception may be for self employers, or those who have an job of thier real interest like computers, writing, art, music, sports ......Doesn't have to be this way. Of course the hard realities of having to support a family/mortgage may mean you have to work in a field that doesn't interest you, but you can study in your own time towards something that does. Good luck with the job hunt. :)	Jen (38)
657069	2008-04-08 17:35:00	First peice of advise, dont bother going for jobs online or using online job sites. Make your cv no more then 6 pages long. Dont be afraid to use winz lists of jobs, at the end of the day a job is just a job. I worked at some pretty crappy jobs just until I found another one that I liked.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
657070	2008-04-08 21:27:00	And apply in-person rather than by phone or email, it shows you are motivated to get off your arse and do something.	Erayd (23)
657071	2008-04-08 21:58:00	When you apply for jobs do you just apply to jobs you really like and know you can do? Do you try to sell yourself even if the job might be a bit higher than yourself, if you sorta know how to do it but not really, do you say you do . . . Is a job, just another job . 1: If you won't enjoy it, don't bother . Nothing worse than going in every day, all day to something you don't like . You'll come to hate it . 2: Don't lie . Don't exaggerate . You'll look like a liar and an idiot . I know someone who did that . Bad, bad idea .	pctek (84)
657072	2008-04-08 23:30:00	Personally I think you should apply for anything thats is in your skill range. It's so much easier to find a job while you are actually in the workforce, plus you are earning $$ while you continue looking. I was made redundant after 10 years in IT with a bank. I was really scared I wouldn't find another job at my age with all the young talent around. I sent out at least 50 CV's to get maybe 6 interviews and finally lucked out with a job I like after a six week 'holiday'. As said above, I also didn't have much luck with online job sites. Very small % of replies. I also registered with 4 different employment agencies. I figured I have nothing to lose! In fact I was turned down for the job I am in now when I applied online and was then sent for an interview at the same place through an employment agency and scored the role. Just my thoughts...	tingle (6539)
657073	2008-04-09 00:10:00	Hmm.. maybe project or operations would be a different angle :) Yeah .. my last job, I applied before to them directly, but didn't get it until I applied to Seek via a agency and they put me via. Then they went via a restructure .. boy still off my top of my head I know 15 people who have left at their own right around the time I left. Funny that every job I have had before were via recruitment agencies :) I'm not in IT or finance .. Since uni I been a CSR, then into project auditing admin, then I drated up briefings and annual reports, letters, strategic plans ... I've worked with will of people. Getting confirmation and chasing them up for clarification and etc.. Edit. I found that the agencies I have used, after you get one job, they don't really get you another. The last one, since the restructure from the sounds of it, wanted to get milked when they freely provided legal advice .. at the end I accepted a settlement with my union and the case was closed. But umm... They seemed to place legal advice prior to foreseeing any jobs for me.	Nomad (952)
657074	2008-04-09 01:10:00	My first piece of advice is get someone else to do your CV for you. Judging by your writing skills it probably doesn't make any sense.	roddy_boy (4115)
657075	2008-04-09 01:18:00	easy Roddy, forum-language and CV language are two different things, I don't care as much about my punctuation and spelling in here as I do when, for example, writing for PCW :)	Jan Birkeland (4741)
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