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Thread ID: 88911	2008-04-14 08:24:00	Broadband and Home phone (or not)	pine-o-cleen (2955)	PC World Chat

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658692	2008-04-15 08:31:00	I would read the costs of making a call when you purchase a phone card because it says in bold letters 2.3c or 4c to any place in the world but when you read the small words down the bottum it will say something like a 3c surcharge calling from a landline and other things like 4c surcharge ringing during peak times	Ninjabear (2948)
658693	2008-04-15 08:34:00	... Another option that is if I don't make a lot of phonecalls. Naked ADSL with Xnet and no phoneline and just use my cellphone be it contract or prepay.Naked ADSL sounds the go (how would I go about ordering that from telecom?). Just had a discussion about how often my wife and I actually use the phone and the answer was, not very often. I find the wireless option v expensive. If you are at home, do you need mobility? Are you going to access it away from home, in another premise or in the car or as you are walking?...No, we don't need mobility, we would just use wifi in the house. Well, nobody else seems to want to answer your actual question... So I'll give it a go. For the broadband side it really depends on how much data you want. If you're buying 5-6GB/month you're better off with Vodafone's mobile Broadband Pro plan as you get 3GB of data for $79.95/month. Vodafone offers bundle insurance, which means should you exceed your 3GB limit you'll be charged $10 and get another 3GB of traffic. That's 6GB for $90 which is cheaper than 6GB from Xtra (once you include the line rental of course). There are pros and cons to both offers - with Telecom you get a land line and free local calls. With Vodafone you don't have that but you do get a mobile solution (and if you take the two-year contract you save money and you get a free Vodem or VMC). If you want a landline at home you can always opt for the Vodafone Home Phone Plus which is a GSM box that you plug your existing curly cord/cordless phone into... you get free calling (any landline number, not 0900 or mobile obviously) for $40/month. That's less than you'll pay for line rental from Telecom alone, plus you can call anywhere in NZ. It doesn't do broadband but you can bundle it with the Vodem/VMC offer and get both. This page gives you some more info on that. For $100 you get the voice service and the 3GB plan (plus $10 if you go over gives you 6GB) which is pretty sharp. Cheers Paul Brislen Vodafone External Communications Manager $100 / month is probably good value for what you are quoting, but it's a bit too steep for us and as I said, we don't actually use the phone that much. So pretty much what I have decided is naked ADSL connection (anyone know prices?), Xnet River Unlimited and maybe some sort of VOIP setup.	pine-o-cleen (2955)
658694	2008-04-15 08:50:00	You say you use about 3-4GB per month and can live without a phoneline. For wireless that is $70 or $80 and add on $10 (extra 3GB wireless) = $80 or $90 for a total of 6GB. For non-wireless that is about up to $40 for the landline and ~$38 for Xnet. $80 but you don't have contracts and you have a phone there for local calls 24/7 and you can access phonecards for international calling. I would assume wired would be faster too. I have looked at Naked ADSL but still locating .. That's the deal. Re: Naked ADSL - maybe someone can tune in. I had a hunt for it .. but cannot find it. Orcon seems to have it, they say they are first to but their plans were really expensive like $79.95 if I am correct but that might be ADSL2 :confused: Re: VOIP - don't remember you will be paying extra via your data traffic. VOIP goes via broadband and hence more traffic. At the mo, Xnet waives the $12 service fee for VOIP for Xnet customers. Further, Xnet will charge a fee per min to call, ie., Canada cost like 5c. It also says 5 cents per minute to anywhere in NZ, Australia, the US, UK and others, When you call your friends and family that are also Xnet VFX subscribers, you will pay nothing. Free local dialling is still there .. you will be allocated a local NZ number. Not sure if the retain number policy apply thou...	Nomad (952)
658695	2008-04-15 09:04:00	Naked ADSL .. this might be something .. Xnet Fusion Xnet Fusion is a standalone Broadband Internet connection and a digital voice phone service without the old fashioned telephone line! With Xnet, New Zealanders are no longer required to pay for an analogue phone line in order to get a Broadband connection. For the base price of $69.95 (incl GST) per month, you will get a full speed broadband connection and digital voice phone line. A second digital phone line is only $7.95 per month. The Broadband connection is Full Line Speed both for uploading and downloading at the maximum your line can handle. With flexible data you can manage your own data cap, tailoring it to your individual requirements and budget. Data is charged at 0.1 cents per megabyte and we will only charge you for what you use! By employing either a Xnet VFX certified voice capable DSL router or adding an Analogue Telephone Adapter (ATA) to the router you already have, you can make digital voice calls using your existing telephone over your Broadband connection. Xnet will allocate you a new phone number, or if you prefer, you can keep your existing phone number for a one off charge of $19.69 incl GST. You will make incredible savings on your toll calls and whats more, your local calls are still free! Control your phone with great features like VoiceMail, Call Forwarding, Caller ID, 3 Way Calling, Call Waiting and more. You can even take your home line service with you when you travel. For more information please check out our FAQ section or call us on 0800 123 456. The problem with that is, there might not be any data included. Ie 4GB = $4. However data for calls are not counted so its free. I'm not sure if this one in particular provides free local dialling or not .... plus the per min you are charged 5c around NZ and many other countries. So to me it looks like a similar price to a landline and Xnet .. both around the $75.	Nomad (952)
658696	2008-04-15 09:13:00	Ok so let me get this right. I pay $69.95 / month to Xnet for their fusion plan: www.xnet.co.nz I get ADSL (unlimited at 0.1c/mb) and VOIP. To set this up I need however a linksys WAG54GP2v2 ADSL and VOIP router or an ADSL router and an Analogue Telephone Adaptor. That right?	pine-o-cleen (2955)
658697	2008-04-15 09:17:00	Yeah that needs a special modem/router that you can plug your standard telephone into it. They also have these special wireless cordless phones too. Which is more money. Plus the price of the plans are similar to the landline + Xnet. Don't forget to my knowledge the fusion plans has no data. Calling is exempted. But for internet you will need to add your 4GB of $4.	Nomad (952)
658698	2008-04-15 09:25:00	If you are really going down there without a telephone. If you can, look at Telstra $50 for 10GB without the need to get a phoneline. Use Skype and call with that, ask people to call your cellphone. You can also get a ph # from Skype if you pay per month...... They might be able to do forwarding to your cellphone - not sure.	Nomad (952)
658699	2008-04-15 09:26:00	Yeah I'm on River atm, same deal. Found the modem /router here www.computerlounge.co.nz $217.	pine-o-cleen (2955)
658700	2008-04-15 10:16:00	You should look at Orcon. It is government owned, so the money you are paying stays in NZ, and it will probably become the next telecom in the future, as it has virtually unlimited funds for investment. After hearing of the problems the people i'm working for at the moment have had with Orcon I wouldn't touch them with a forty foot barge pole.	mikebartnz (21)
658701	2008-04-15 10:43:00	JIMO pricewise naked adsl, voip, normal bb - they are the same price. Big deal. First up you need a more $$ modem and second you need more handsets (special ones) or that you need more modules to increase the amount of adaptors. For the single occupied residence or a couple without dependents you could do it and its just the more $$ modem and it has a jack or two for a std phone. For a typical family household, you may need more than 2 handsets then you need extra modules to increase the # of phones and they also need to look at their bandwidth as well since the phone is going. For the simplicity, I think landlines will remain here for a long time. The jacks are already in so many rooms for that convenience. It doesn't cost more. It doesn't affect the bandwidth. I think one way of minimising the tangles is to employ cordless phones. But that needs charging ... a lot of times, you just want to pick the phone up and when finished then hang it up .... IMO I think if naked ADSL is not $50 its a ripoff because Telstra can do it and provide 10GB. $70 or $75 for naked ADSL sheez ... or $80 with Orcon.	Nomad (952)
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