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Thread ID: 88915	2008-04-14 10:58:00	Lets build a PC 2008 (April)	Metla (12)	PC World Chat

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658728	2008-04-16 02:44:00	Hey, I just thought I'd ask you guys' opinion on something. I'm looking at getting a comp, and have priced up most of the parts at ascent. After looking around I can see that maybe I'll save $30 on the CPU if I buy it at X, or $40 on the GFX if i buy at Y, overall it makes my comp about $150 cheaper (just an estimate). But I've never heard of half the places that pricespy calls the cheapest... so I'm wondering. Do you think $150 worth the peace of mind that I'll get from buying entirely from somewhere like ascent? And the fact that if anything goes wrong I only have to talk to the one place? Plus they have a free installation policy if I buy from them. Basically, is frantically pricespying worth it in your opinion?	Thebananamonkey (7741)
658729	2008-04-16 02:49:00	IMO - no. You should only buy from reputable shops, with a good record of after sales service. I always pay the bit extra for peace of mind, and it's saved my arse several times. And the odd time the good shops do have a better deal, so thats even better.	wratterus (105)
658730	2008-04-16 08:25:00	IMO - no. You should only buy from reputable shops, with a good record of after sales service. I always pay the bit extra for peace of mind, and it's saved my arse several times. And the odd time the good shops do have a better deal, so thats even better. I agree there and am the same. Monkey, have you heard of a thing called haggling? Haggle Ascent down, I am sure they will lower their prices.	The_End_Of_Reality (334)
658731	2008-04-16 12:07:00	The difference in speed between the fastest amd processor and intel processor isn't that big of a difference is it? I always loved Amd for some strange reason....	Ninjabear (2948)
658732	2008-04-16 12:17:00	AMD's fastest dual core would be the 6400+, which would be comparable to an E6600-E6700. But these days you could get an E6750 or E8200 which are faster and highly overclockable. Even Intel's slowest quad, Q6600 pretty much kicks all AMD's quads.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
658733	2008-04-16 12:22:00	Oh dear What happen to AMD when it was ahead of intel?	Ninjabear (2948)
658734	2008-04-17 00:32:00	Oh dear What happen to AMD when it was ahead of intel? It's called keeping not keeping their eyes open, and R & D. Unfortunately, they're bleeding cash atm, and to combat that they've downsized their R & D dept. So don't count on them coming back any time soon. Their latest gen chips are roughly as good as intels year old ones... if not worse. Also, they're running at a higher Nm process than Intel are, 65Nm, compared to 45Nm. (from memory that is, I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong.) The up side to this is, though, that while they're not that good, they're cheap.	Thebananamonkey (7741)
658735	2008-04-17 00:55:00	Hey, I just thought I'd ask you guys' opinion on something . I'm looking at getting a comp, and have priced up most of the parts at ascent . After looking around I can see that maybe I'll save $30 on the CPU if I buy it at X, or $40 on the GFX if i buy at Y, overall it makes my comp about $150 cheaper (just an estimate) . But I've never heard of half the places that pricespy calls the cheapest . . . so I'm wondering . Do you think $150 worth the peace of mind that I'll get from buying entirely from somewhere like ascent? And the fact that if anything goes wrong I only have to talk to the one place? Plus they have a free installation policy if I buy from them . Basically, is frantically pricespying worth it in your opinion? I got motherboard, graphic card, cpu and memory from pbtech and rather than just walk around the shop I spoke to a tech there who walked around and got it for me then gave me a good discount at the end of it over the web price . I am about to upgrade another pc here and will use them again . I compared pricing on ascent and pbtech and some things are cheaper at one and some at the other . pbtech also has some items cheaper than ingram which did surprise me .	Bantu (52)
658736	2008-04-21 03:06:00	Hi all, I've put together the following build on Ascent's PC Builder. My price range is roughly $1000-$1400, not including monitor, mouse or keyboard. What do you think of my selections? Anything I can change for the better? The most intensive task it will be used for is DV editing, otherwise just standard home/home office use, little to no gaming. Price/performance is very important to me, as well as reliability and upgradability (I know LGA 775 is on its way out this year). Raidmax Luna2 ATX Mid Tower Case, 500W PSU, Side Window, Silver $179.67 www.ascent.co.nz Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Motherboard $179.37 www.ascent.co.nz Intel Core 2 Duo E4700 2.6 GHz, 800MHz FSB $238.80 www.ascent.co.nz Seagate Barracuda ST3500320AS Hard Disk Drive, 500GB $155.76 www.ascent.co.nz Asus DRW-2014L1T DVD Writer $59.40 www.ascent.co.nz Corsair XMS2, TWIN2X2048-6400, 2x1GB $76.40 www.ascent.co.nz Asus EN8600GT/HTDI/256M Video Card, GeForce 8600 GT, 256MB, DDR3, PCIe-16, TV out, DVI, HDTV, SLI ready $148.39 www.ascent.co.nz ST Lab F-152, 3x Firewire External, 1x Firewire Internal, PCI, Retail $34.20 www.ascent.co.nz Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium, for x86 (32-bit) systems, DVD, OEM $163.64http://www.ascent.co.nz//ProductSpec.aspx?itemID=351439 Total cost $1235 assembled. Is the E4700 a good choice? Also considered E2200 and E8200. For motherboard I'm considering the EP35-DS3P from Gigabyte or the Asus P5KR, or even the P5K-E/WIFI. With any of these I would drop the discrete Firewire card. Better half advises that case cannot be solid black, I thought that Raidmax one looks nice, not sure about PSU though. Anything I can save money on/anything that I'm skimping on? Thanks for taking the time to look and read, hope I got all the links right.:nerd:	mettaverse (12447)
658737	2008-04-21 03:16:00	~$500 Intel $69.00 CORSAIR TWIN2X2048-6400 2x1GB DDR2 800MHZ CL5 $100.00 ASUS P5KPL-VM Intel G31 mATX, VGA $99.00 Intel Pentium E2160, 1.8GHz (OC up to 3.0GHz) $75.00 Asus ATX Case w/ 350w PSU $41.00 Pioneer DVR-212 Dual Layer Serial-ATA DVD Writer review $80.00 Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200 8MB NCQ 3.5" SATAII = $464.00 Total inc gst, ex shipping AMD $69.00 CORSAIR TWIN2X2048-6400 2x1GB DDR2 800MHZ CL5 $141.00 Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H AM2+ Phenom/ AM2 Athlon 64 AMD 780G review, review $94.00 2.1GHz 4000+ w/hsf (OC up to 2.8GHz) $75.00 Asus ATX Case w/ 350w PSU $41.00 Pioneer DVR-212 Dual Layer Serial-ATA DVD Writer review $80.00 Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200 8MB NCQ 3.5" SATAII = $500.00 Total inc gst, ex shipping ~$1000 Intel $166.00 Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 2.2GHz, LGA775 (OC up to 3.4GHz) $50.00 Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro review $144.00 Gigabyte P35-DS3L ATX motherboard review $89.00 Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX 2x1GB DDR2 800MHZ CL4 E.P.P $257.00 GeForce 9600GT 512MB (decent brand) review $100.00 Case (eg Enermax Chakra) $97.00 Silverstone ST50F 500W ATX power supply $41.00 Pioneer DVR-212 Dual Layer Serial-ATA DVD Writer review $80.00 Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200 8MB NCQ 3.5" SATAII = $1,024.00 Total inc gst, ex shipping AMD $146.00 ATHLON64 X2 5200+ 2.6GHZ 2x1MB (OC up to 3.2GHz) $137.00 Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3 AM2+ AMD770 ATX $89.00 Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX 2x1GB DDR2 800MHZ CL4 E.P.P $299.00 ATI Radeon HD 3870 512MB $100.00 Case (eg Enermax Chakra) $97.00 Silverstone ST50F 500W ATX power supply $41.00 Pioneer DVR-212 Dual Layer Serial-ATA DVD Writer review $80.00 Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200 8MB NCQ 3.5" SATAII = $989.00 Total inc gst, ex shipping ~$1500 Intel $309.00 Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, 3.00GHz (OC up to 4.0GHz) review $90.00 Thermalright Ultima-90 (you'll need a 92mm or 120mm fan) $188.00 Asus P5K Pro $89.00 Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX 2x1GB DDR2 800MHZ CL4 E.P.P $345.00 8800GT 512MB (Decent brand, eg Asus) $125.00 Case (eg Silverstone TJ04) $114.00 Silverstone ST50EF-PLUS 500WATT POWER SUPPLY $41.00 Pioneer DVR-212 Dual Layer Serial-ATA DVD Writer review $209.00 Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200rpm 32MB SATAII 750GB = $1,510.00 Total inc gst, ex shipping AMD $145.00 AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+, dual core, socket AM2, 2.6GHz (OC up to 3.2GHz) $137.00 Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3 AM2+ AMD770 ATX $89.00 Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX 2x1GB DDR2 800MHZ CL4 E.P.P $651.00 ATI Radeon HD 3870X2 1GB, PCI Express $125.00 Case (eg Silverstone TJ04) $114.00 Silverstone ST50EF-PLUS 500WATT POWER SUPPLY $41.00 Pioneer DVR-212 Dual Layer Serial-ATA DVD Writer review $209.00 Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200rpm 32MB SATAII 750GB = $1,511.00 Total inc gst, ex shipping $2000+ Intel + ATI $509.00 Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450, 2.66GHz Quad Core CPU (OC up to 4.0GHz) $130.00 Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120 + fan $419.00 XFX MG-N780-ISH9 Nvidia nForce 780i SLI ATX Motherboard $157.00 Corsair XMS2 DHX DDR2 4GB PC2 6400 DUAL CHANNEL 2x2GB DDR2 800MHZ CL4 $856.00 GeForce 9800GX2 $300.00 Case (something BIG) $240.00 Silverstone DECAthlon DA750 750WATT POWER SUPPLY $41.00 Pioneer DVR-212 Dual Layer Serial-ATA DVD Writer review $209.00 Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200rpm 32MB SATAII 750GB = $2,861.00 Total inc gst, ex shipping Borrowed from www.gpforums.co.nz These configs look very close as of April 18th and prettty well debated, both Intel and AMD with Overclocking potential listed if you are inclined.	Battleneter2 (9361)
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