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Thread ID: 89143 2008-04-22 04:26:00 Key pledges $1.5b for fast internet robbyp (2751) PC World Chat
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661194 2008-04-22 08:49:00 Let's see if Labour have a new plan.

$10bn is overkill. I'm not sure where that figure came from. 		jermsie (6820)
661195 2008-04-22 09:20:00 $10b includes getting it out to rural areas - i.e.farms. somebody (208)
661196 2008-04-22 11:22:00 $10b includes getting it out to rural areas - i.e.farms.

Yes $10b was for the entire NZ plus rural areas. I think Telecom is only valued at around about $6b and falling, so they obviously could never afford to build it on their own. 		robbyp (2751)
661197 2008-04-22 20:24:00 Of course the money spent on fast internet means that money is no longer available for things like health, education and law and order.

The government, in their wisdom, sold our telecomunication system to Telecom, and ever since have been telling Telecom how to run their business. Telecom,of course, are politely ignoring the government instructions.

I wonder if Key has even thought of the logistics. Like who is going to install all the new cable, who is going to run the system. And more importantly where are the skilled staff comming from.

And where did Mr. Key get the figure of $1.5 B? Even if this figure is anywhere near accurate, has he heard of inflation?

I wonder if Telecom has been consulted. Or is he just going to install all his cables and the say "Here it is, Run it and pay us $x for it." Teleco replies "Too dear. No thank you." Then What? 		JJJJJ (528)
661198 2008-04-22 20:54:00 Anyone can pledge anything when they are not in power.
:)

Yeah, and labour does it all the time when in power! 		SolMiester (139)
661199 2008-04-22 21:13:00 Of course the money spent on fast internet means that money is no longer available for things like health, education and law and order.

The government, in their wisdom, sold our telecomunication system to Telecom, and ever since have been telling Telecom how to run their business. Telecom,of course, are politely ignoring the government instructions.

I wonder if Key has even thought of the logistics. Like who is going to install all the new cable, who is going to run the system. And more importantly where are the skilled staff comming from.

And where did Mr. Key get the figure of $1.5 B? Even if this figure is anywhere near accurate, has he heard of inflation?

I wonder if Telecom has been consulted. Or is he just going to install all his cables and the say "Here it is, Run it and pay us $x for it." Teleco replies "Too dear. No thank you." Then What?

Figure comes from the NZ Institute. 		somebody (208)
661200 2008-04-22 23:50:00 Great idea, NZ needs real Broadband. Oh wait, do it the way Key describes, and we end up in a monopoly situation again (if telecom takes the network). Then National gets kicked out some time later, Labor comes back, opens it up, and we're back to square one, with freakishly slow unbundling. Big waste. Just build it, and wholesale it to all ISP's, and don't oversell capacity on it. ubergeek85 (131)
661201 2008-04-23 00:13:00 . Just build it, and wholesale it to all ISP's, and don't oversell capacity on it.

Hmm... you obviously haven't read the plan in detail then have you. 		somebody (208)
661202 2008-04-23 00:20:00 Hmm... you obviously haven't read the plan in detail then have you.

Nope, that's just the way I see it. My opinion. It being right or not is another matter :P 		ubergeek85 (131)
661203 2008-04-23 00:31:00 IMO, the second miles more important for NZ at this stage, fibre to homes would be nice, but it's a bit ambitious isn't it?

If the govt decided to upgrade 2nd mile infrastructure themselves, maybe telco's would be motivated to do the first mile under their own steam.

But we need to see what happens when the govt pretends it's finished unbundling telecom first, maybe there will actually be some competition. 		Thebananamonkey (7741)
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