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Thread ID: 89275 2008-04-26 00:15:00 Microsoft to nuke MSN Music DRM keys Erayd (23) PC World Chat
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662697 2008-04-26 00:15:00 From here ( . com/news . ars/post/20080422-drm-sucks-redux-microsoft-to-nuke-msn-music-drm-keys . html" target="_blank">arstechnica . com):
Customers who have purchased music from Microsoft's now-defunct MSN Music store are now facing a decision they never anticipated making: commit to which computers (and OS) they want to authorize forever, or give up access to the music they paid for . Why? Because Microsoft has decided that it's done supporting the service and will be turning off the MSN Music license servers by the end of this summer .

MSN Entertainment and Video Services general manager Rob Bennett sent out an e-mail this afternoon to customers, advising them to make any and all authorizations or deauthorizations before August 31 . "As of August 31, 2008, we will no longer be able to support the retrieval of license keys for the songs you purchased from MSN Music or the authorization of additional computers," reads the e-mail seen by Ars . "You will need to obtain a license key for each of your songs downloaded from MSN Music on any new computer, and you must do so before August 31, 2008 . If you attempt to transfer your songs to additional computers after August 31, 2008, those songs will not successfully play . "

This doesn't just apply to the five different computers that PlaysForSure allows users to authorize, it also applies to operating systems on the same machine (users need to reauthorize a machine after they upgrade from Windows XP to Windows Vista, for example) . Once September rolls around, users are committed to whatever five machines they may have authorized—along with whatever OS they are running .

The news will likely upset a number of Microsoft's customers, who bought music from MSN Music before the company launched the Zune Marketplace and decided to ditch the old store . Microsoft's decision to turn off the MSN Music authorization servers serves as a painful reminder that DRM ultimately severely limits your rights . Companies that control various DRM schemes, as well as the content providers themselves, can yank your ability to play the content which you lawfully purchased (and now, videos) at any moment—no matter what your expectation was when you bought it . Some Major League Baseball fans learned this the hard way last fall .

Bennett insists that MSN Music keys are, in fact, not yet expiring . Technically speaking, that's true—if I authorize one of my PCs, never get rid of it for the rest of my life, and never upgrade its OS, I will be able to play my tracks forever . But as some of our readers note, this technicality is not rooted in reality—the authorizations will now expire when the computer does, for whatever reason . DRM-free music may be the new hotness these days, but people who bought music before the record industry began to see the light are still stuck with their DRMed music .

Of course, MSN Music customers do have one other option: burning all of their music to audio CD and then re-ripping them back to the computer as MP3s, sans DRM . But that's a lossy, lousy solution .
Erayd (23)
662698 2008-04-26 00:25:00 Oh well no loss, I've never used it anyway Speedy Gonzales (78)
662699 2008-04-26 03:48:00 Should we be surprised?
I would have said it was always likely to happen it was just a matter of "when". Most people buy their music online from iTunes or Amazon.com both of which have DRM free tracks with iTunes having the world's biggest online store although not the biggest selection of DRM free music - that title goes to Amazon which is about 1/10th the size of iTunes - MS's store comes in at a lowly 3rd place.
vitalstatistix (9182)
662700 2008-04-26 05:08:00 Glad to see you got your itunes plug in.

I can see a couple more threads pretty much begging for your promotion.
Metla (12)
662701 2008-04-26 05:39:00 I'm just waiting to see what "amazing opportunity" Microsoft comes up with next since no one wants to work with them when it comes to selling music online. I see they have been forced (by lack of public demand) to remove the DRM from the tracks in the Zune store just so that they can remain "relevant" in the world of online music, the Zune also supports :eek: mp4 and h.264 - guess they lost the battle there for "giving" customers a "choice" of Micorsoft proprietary formats :p

* Mp3
* AAC (Advanced Audio Coding)
* WMA (Windows Media Audio)
* Zune Marketplace
* WMV (Windows Media Video)
* MPEG4
* H.264 codec


Amazon is doing well because it is DRM free and NOT .wma
vitalstatistix (9182)
662702 2008-04-26 08:38:00 iTunes is doing well because there is one born (or quarried) every minute. That is obviously enough. R2x1 (4628)
662703 2008-04-26 09:12:00 iTunes is doing well because there is one born (or quarried) every minute. That is obviously enough.

iPod and iTouch users obviously like their purchases otherwise they would have started looking elsewhere ages ago.

iTunes and Amazon Music Stores are doing well because Limewire users are getting sick of the viruses on Limewire when they try and steal music and movies so they are going for the legal virus free alternative. Not to say that people will ever completely stop pirating music of course.
vitalstatistix (9182)
662704 2008-04-26 09:20:00 Amazon is doing well because it is DRM free and NOT .wma

Pity we can't get it here. There are a handful of songs I want to get legit.
bob_doe_nz (92)
662705 2008-04-26 09:20:00 Baaaaaaa. Metla (12)
662706 2008-04-26 09:22:00 I'm just waiting to see what "amazing opportunity" Microsoft comes up with next since no one wants to work with them when it comes to selling music online. I see they have been forced (by lack of public demand) to remove the DRM from the tracks in the Zune store just so that they can remain "relevant" in the world of online music, the Zune also supports :eek: mp4 and h.264 - guess they lost the battle there for "giving" customers a "choice" of Micorsoft proprietary formats :p

* Mp3
* AAC (Advanced Audio Coding)
* WMA (Windows Media Audio)
* Zune Marketplace
* WMV (Windows Media Video)
* MPEG4
* H.264 codec


Amazon is doing well because it is DRM free and NOT .wma

Thats right folks. MS is screwed cos it sells non-DRM music that customers want but that crap with DRM that Apple sells is a a "feature"

I'm with you R2x1, theres a stupid ****er born every minute.
beeswax34 (63)
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