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| Thread ID: 89333 | 2008-04-28 03:11:00 | Should NZ remove GST off food prices? | robbyp (2751) | PC World Chat |
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| 663245 | 2008-04-28 07:13:00 | PS: This post probably violates the Electoral Finance Act... How would it do that. Isn't NZ a democracy where people can voice their opinions? No political party is supporting this either. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 663246 | 2008-04-28 07:16:00 | Its a dumb idea. Prices will soon go up again and then nobody would notice. Same with petrol. Best to drop income tax. I am only talking about removing GST off staple foods. Most food sold in stores however are probably not staples. People don't need petrol to live, but we do need food and water. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 663247 | 2008-04-28 07:30:00 | Its a dumb idea. Prices will soon go up again and then nobody would notice. Same with petrol. Best to drop income tax. ^^ What he says!! And yes, andrew93 - 'feeder' industries generally play the zero sum game (to some extent), but they still have to keep track of everything. Throw a few exceptions in there, and the job just gets harder. Remember, some of these 'feeder' industries are small businesses. Not everyone can afford a whizz-bang system - or system upgrade - every time someone has a not-very-bright idea. (But I do agree that our current politicians are morons!!) Everyone who has voted yes: please quantify the supposed savings (including in the quantification the new compliance costs for small businesses that we as consumers will end up paying for). Inflation will eat up any short-lived savings very quickly (more so at the moment with fuel prices the way they are!). If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Tax relief - more than a packet of chewing gum's worth!!! - would be far more use to all and sundry. Robbyp - if people don't need petrol to live, how is everyone going to get to work? Or the food get to the shops? (OK - I know delivery vehicles generally use diesel....) |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 663248 | 2008-04-28 07:34:00 | It's complicated because currently supermarket systems apply GST across the board for all products sold . If there are grey areas, then GST needs to be calculated and recorded for each individual product - and associated with this will be a huge bureaucracy to figure out which food items should have GST and which ones shouldn't . This will hit small businesses hardest - your local dairy etc . will need to put in systems to record each individual item sold, which ones needs to have GST charged, which ones doesn't . . . for each transaction . Yes - Australia has done it, but they have done it with huge controversy and opposition . I thought GST was already in the price attached to the item, not added at the end of the bill, therefore businesses will need to relabel!, they do it all the time!! As for the bureacracy, its already there, do we really need more just to work out which items . . . . I think they are looking for a cop out and spreading FUD . . . . . |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 663249 | 2008-04-28 07:36:00 | I think the main people who are critising it, are politicans. Also as Foodstuffs is NZs second largest company in NZ, they possibily have a lot of political clout, and possibily friends in high places. Therefore politicans don't want to get them offside. If all the other countries in the OECD can do it (aprt from 3), there is no reason we can't. I would agree that it could make things more complicated, but when foodstuffs is making more money than ever before, they can certainly handle the additional costs. They don't appear to be using the additional money to pay their worker, as some of their workers are currently on strike due to low wages. Instead of doing this, the government are going to give out more money via 'working for the families', making more NZers than ever beneficiaries. However this means that middle and higher waged NZers miss out yet again, even though they pay most of the taxes. It is these middle and higher waged NZers who are leaving NZ, partly because they are fed up by all this, and just don't have the disposable income of other countries. Yes, I already said this! Edit - Oh, didnt see you had said this 3 mins before me...LOL, great minds! |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 663250 | 2008-04-28 07:42:00 | You have to wonder at being taxed to go to the doctor and eating. I think they are looking into taxing breathing. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 663251 | 2008-04-28 07:59:00 | Well they wanted to tax farting, isnt that the same as a politicians breath? | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 663252 | 2008-04-28 08:03:00 | You have to wonder at being taxed to go to the doctor and eating. I think they are looking into taxing breathing. You do get subsidies for going to the doctor. Also if it is an emergency, you can go to the hospital for free, and in general hospital care is free (tax payer funded). However if you go for private health insurance, you are paying twice. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 663253 | 2008-04-28 08:26:00 | So, while the NZ taxpayer has to tighten the belt, outgoing politicians get to go on world trips at our expense.... Lets face it, the MP dont give a toss about us, they dont even live in our world, its enough to make you want to shoot them all down Tell me why....I dont like Mondays...... |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 663254 | 2008-04-28 08:30:00 | lol nice | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
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