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Thread ID: 89456 2008-05-01 01:45:00 Vodafone NZ Sim Locking robbyp (2751) PC World Chat
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664563 2008-05-02 01:06:00 Paul, any hints that this might lead to cheaper mobile phones?

This seems to be the model in a lot of countries where sim locking is normal, ie giving away free phones with plans or highly discounted prices.
Jan Birkeland (4741)
664564 2008-05-02 01:30:00 From the Vodafone website:

Unlocking your Vodafone mobile

From April 2008, in line with global industry standard practice, Vodafone NZ will begin locking mobiles sold through official Vodafone channels.

Vodafone NZ mobiles are specially designed to work with the Vodafone NZ network, so you can get the best possible Vodafone experience. For example, Vodafone customises mobiles with Vodafone Live! and other services. If you take a Vodafone mobile to another network, some of the functions would no longer work, such as Vodafone Live!

This means that if you wish to put another provider’s SIM card into your Vodafone NZ mobile, you’ll need to request your mobile's unlock code.

This doesn’t affect Vodafone NZ global roaming at all. You can still roam with your mobile as usual. However, if you wish to put another network provider’s SIM card into your Vodafone NZ mobile whilst travelling overseas, you may need to unlock the mobile first. This includes Vodafone SIM cards from other countries.
Requesting an unlock code

Vodafone New Zealand’s official unlocking supplier Brightpoint can be contacted on the following numbers to request an unlock code.

* From within New Zealand, call 0800 VF UNLOCK (0800 838 656)
* From overseas, call +64 9 368 7069

Brightpoint operates Monday to Friday 8am to 6pm. If you call out of these hours, please leave a message and Brightpoint will return your call.

A $50 fee applies to unlock your mobile.
How to enter the code

Instructions to do this vary, depending on the mobile model you are using. When you put the new SIM card into your mobile, you should be asked for the code to unlock this mobile. Enter the unlock code you were given by Brightpoint.

Should you experience any problems unlocking your phone, please contact Vodafone’s official unlocking supplier Brightpoint on the above numbers.

www.vodafone.co.nz (www.vodafone.co.nz)

You may want to add a link and button to that announcement on your websites homepage, as I can't see how to get to that page link from the homepage.
robbyp (2751)
664565 2008-05-02 01:35:00 Paul, any hints that this might lead to cheaper mobile phones?

This seems to be the model in a lot of countries where sim locking is normal, ie giving away free phones with plans or highly discounted prices .


I hope so, although they do already discount phones if you sign up to 2 year contracts . Although if they were doing this, I assume they already would have told us . Effectively it is adding $50 onto the price of a phone, if you want to take it overseas to use with a specific countries sim card .
robbyp (2751)
664566 2008-05-02 01:39:00 Can Vodafone NZ only unlock phones that they themselves have locked?

My partner has a Sony Ericsson phone that she brought to NZ with her from the UK, where she was with Vodafone, but she is unable to use it here as it is still locked to the Vodafone UK network. It would be great if it could be unlocked here, so she can use it again.
Miami Steve (2128)
664567 2008-05-02 02:02:00 Can Vodafone NZ only unlock phones that they themselves have locked?

My partner has a Sony Ericsson phone that she brought to NZ with her from the UK, where she was with Vodafone, but she is unable to use it here as it is still locked to the Vodafone UK network. It would be great if it could be unlocked here, so she can use it again.

No

I am sure there are shops in auckland that can do the unlocking even some people on ebay can do it

I can even take it to Hong kong and unlock it

You just need to find someone that knows how to unlock.Its not something thats hard to do
Ninjabear (2948)
664568 2008-05-02 02:41:00 just because others lock cellphones dosent make it right.
just because others run dictatorship dosent make it right.

if I pay for a handset then its my goram handset and I should be able to do what ever I want with it.

the next phone I buy will be unlocked, the next phone I buy will probly be direct import from someone who wont make me pay an extra $50 to unlock it.
robsonde (120)
664569 2008-05-02 02:47:00 I heard, from a source in Vodafone that the iphone will be brought into NZ at the end of this year, so the locking may be a necessary part of the contract between apple and vodafone, as well as keeping phones on their network

That would be about right considering Vodafone Australia has got the initial contract with Apple for the iPhone which is rumored to be due out around September, to be followed by other cell phone service providers like Optus. The new iPhones will be sold on Locked and unlocked terms. The iPhones will also have GPS. They will be subsidized and considerably cheaper than the first iPhones that came out and probably with a few more models available.
vitalstatistix (9182)
664570 2008-05-02 02:50:00 just because others lock cellphones dosent make it right .
just because others run dictatorship dosent make it right .

if I pay for a handset then its my goram handset and I should be able to do what ever I want with it .

the next phone I buy will be unlocked, the next phone I buy will probly be direct import from someone who wont make me pay an extra $50 to unlock it .

Companies/Governments will always use a statement like that to justify something that is unpopular, when it benefits them .

Most countries don't charge GST on it's food, but are the NZ government promoting that fact, in their reasoning for not removing GST on food in NZ . No, because that wouldn't benefit them .
robbyp (2751)
664571 2008-05-02 08:07:00 Paul, any hints that this might lead to cheaper mobile phones?

This seems to be the model in a lot of countries where sim locking is normal, ie giving away free phones with plans or highly discounted prices .

Of course not . The $200 unlocked fone they were selling yesterday is now a $200 locked fone . Now they want to charge you $50 more to make it like it was yesterday . .
paulw (1826)
664572 2008-05-02 10:05:00 Of course not. The $200 unlocked fone they were selling yesterday is now a $200 locked fone. Now they want to charge you $50 more to make it like it was yesterday..

I hope people complain to the commerce commission about this. It could be viewed as an anti competitive move. It wouldn't be so bad, if the prices were reduced $50 to account for the VF unlocking tax, but it doesn't appear they are doing this, so people are buying a full retail priced phone, that was previosuly sold as working on all GSM networks, to one that is locked onto a particular providers network.
How would you feel if you purchased an unsubsidised computer, and you could only use it with one ISP, unless you pay a fee to that ISP to let you use it with other providers. Basically I don't think anyone would buy that computer.

Aardvark have written an article on it here. aardvark.co.nz
robbyp (2751)
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