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| Thread ID: 89510 | 2008-05-02 13:49:00 | Global warming is codswallop! | feersumendjinn (64) | PC World Chat |
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| 665163 | 2008-05-02 13:49:00 | Like I've always thought, this global warming stuff is just balderdash and piffle; sounds like NASA has been cooking the figures Bottom Line Both of the satellite data sources, as well as Had-Crut, show worldwide temperatures falling below the IPCC estimates. Satellite data shows temperatures near or below the 30 year average - but NASA data has somehow managed to stay on track towards climate Armageddon. You can draw your own conclusions, but I see a pattern that is troublesome. In science, as with any other endeavour, it is always a good idea to have some separation between the people generating the data and the people interpreting it. Some good news moving forward was reported this week by Anthony Watts, who blogs at Watt's Up With That? (wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/) USHCN has issued a press release (http:) indicating that they are upgrading their methodology and ending the practice of adjusting data upwards for future temperature readings. This will make the data more credible, though will not resolve the issues associated with growing urban heat islands or a lack of spatial coverage across the planet. Bear in mind that warming and cooling concerns are nothing new, as this alarming bulletin reminds us - The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.A RealClimate blogger? No, that was the US Weather Bureau in 1922. We saw a global cooling scare in 1924, a global warming scare in 1933, another global cooling in the early 1970s, and another warming scare today. The changes the USHCN promised Watts won't help resolve anything for another decade or so, but perhaps future generations will be able to reduce the alarming increase in the number of climate alarms.® From this article www.theregister.co.uk |
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| 665164 | 2008-05-02 14:22:00 | Ostrich - head - sand | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 665165 | 2008-05-02 14:22:00 | As with all similar things, there will always be two or even more sides of the argument. I believe global warming and cooling does happen naturally, and I also believe human pollution has contributed to it, though how much I cannot say for myself. In 1922 they did not have the technology to estimate the size of icebergs or the population of hard-reached animals such as seals and polar bears as accurate as we can today. Even if in the 1970s there had been a global cooling, a mere 30 years cannot freeze what only a million years can. What I find disheartening is how people tend to mock and ridicule those who believe global warming is caused by man, rather than working together to actually stop or at least slow the process down. Global warming will affect everyone, and playing smartass today will only make an ass of us all tomorrow. There's no denying the planet does undergo drastic climatic changes over time, some severe and some not, but with 6.6 billion people and rising, even a few degrees' rise in temperature will **** us all soon enough. |
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| 665166 | 2008-05-02 14:27:00 | What ever happened to our perpetual global warming thread? | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 665167 | 2008-05-02 14:58:00 | Ostrich - head - sand I agree with you!!:clap Yeah talk to the Aussie farmers who have that long as drought going on.:( What about the North and South Poles getting smaller,as in melting? Or should we just carry on destroying the rainforests etc.?:crying Or digging big holes and call it a dump throw all our rubbish in and then cover it up and then look for another place to dig up again and then we say were clean and tidy?(and all the toxins leak into the earth and into the underground water and poisons our drinking water).:eek: Sweet as we can do anything and there wont be any repercussions!!! Yeah Right!!!:punk |
memphis (2869) | ||
| 665168 | 2008-05-02 15:06:00 | Like I've always thought, this global warming stuff is just balderdash and piffle; sounds like NASA has been cooking the figures From this article www.theregister.co.uk You can stay inside your house and play on your computer and have all the "facts and figurers" you want. Then go outside and see that they are wrong!!!:D:thumbs: |
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| 665169 | 2008-05-02 15:10:00 | www.zmescience.com space.about.com |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 665170 | 2008-05-02 15:31:00 | We are seriously on our own, all we have is each other, we are seriously trashing the eco-system, there are too many of us on Earth: space.about.com There are more people alive now than have ever existed in all time before 1950. |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 665171 | 2008-05-02 20:57:00 | Like I've always thought, this global warming stuff is just balderdash and piffle; sounds like NASA has been cooking the figures If it's balderdash and piffle, someone forgot to tell the polar bears who're faced with ever-shrinking icefields on which to hunt. |
Greg (193) | ||
| 665172 | 2008-05-03 00:16:00 | We are seriously on our own, all we have is each other, we are seriously trashing the eco-system, there are too many of us on Earth: Dead right. That is the problem, there are too many of us on earth. I say (and have said on here before) the only way to stop growing pollution and warming and use of resources is to bring in mandatory sterilization of ALL females world wide once they have had one child. Do this for twenty or thirty years and it would start to make a big drop in the world's population which is what we need. Sounds drastic I know, but this is what is needed. |
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