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Thread ID: 89524	2008-05-03 03:12:00	Alan Greenspan should be shot	Digby (677)	PC World Chat

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665313	2008-05-04 06:17:00	In-to Warrens back pocket,that's what I think . Wish it were that simple . I feel that it has been converted to gold and spirited offshore to someplace where JB and cronies can get their hands on it easily . They are all rapturists anyway . . . so they get an immediate "Get-Off-Earth" card . . . but unlike the Muslims, they don't get all those free virgins . :crying	SurferJoe46 (51)
665314	2008-05-04 06:18:00	What is it good for? Edwin..who? :lol:	SurferJoe46 (51)
665315	2008-05-04 07:25:00	[QUOTE=SurferJoe46;670230]Wish it were that simple . I feel that it has been converted to gold and spirited offshore to someplace where JB and cronies can get their hands on it easily . /QUOTE] Swiss bank account??	paulw (1826)
665316	2008-05-04 18:31:00	Nah . . . better than that . . . . South America . . . and the Carlisle company . . . . . . . mostly/heavilly owned by JB's family . It's tied in to Interessen-Gemeinschaft Farbenindustrie AG (Germany), who now in consolidation own almost all the energy sources in the world . It was established well before Hitler . . and provided his Reich #3 with the technology for converting coal into oil and fuel . It was so much established that many . . . many US B-17 bombing runs were made on the outskirt factories providing coal and coal dust to the main, <but never bombed> plant and corporate headquarters . Now . . . don't say you didn't ask for this . . . but the following is VERY long . . . even in my measurement: During the pre WW-II planning of the German invasion of Czechoslovakia and Poland, IG Farben cooperated closely with Nazi (Brown Shirts) officials and directed which chemical plants should be secured and delivered to IG Farben . In 1941, an investigation exposed a "marriage" cartel between United States-based Standard Oil Co . and I . G . Farben . (and just who now sits on the BoD at Standard Oil? Who?) This cartel consisted of many social-economic-spiritual organizations that had all given credence and blessing to the Nazi Supremacy Ideology, even the Pope held a special mass to denounce the rest of the world's attempts to quell the Brown Shirts, and Hitler was named as the Saviour of The New World and given special simonous privileges . <The medieval practice of buying and selling church positions and titles> SUBPLOT: The Standard Oil Trust was controlled by a small group of families . Rockefeller stated in 1910: "I think it is true that the Pratt family, the Payne-Whitney family (which were one, as all the stock came from Colonel Payne), the Harkness-Flagler family (which came into the Company together) and the Rockefeller family controlled a majority of the stock during all the history of the Company up to the present time" . [SEE: Carlisle LLC, below for further info] These families reinvested most of the dividends in other industries, especially railroads . They also invested heavily in the gas and the electric lighting business (including the giant Consolidated Gas Company of New York City) . They made large purchases of stock in US Steel, Amalgamated Copper, and even Corn Products Refining Company [ Hmmmm?!?! Again, look at the "diversified" activites on Carlisle . ] It also brought new evidence concerning complex price and marketing agreements between DuPont, a major investor in and producer of leaded gasoline, U . S . Industrial Alcohol Co . and their subsidiary, Cuba Distilling Co . [Watch for this name to come up again, a little further on in this article] . The investigation was eventually dropped, like dozens of others in many different kinds of industries, due to the need to enlist industry support in the war effort . However, the top directors of many oil companies agreed to resign and oil industry stocks in molasses companies were sold off as part of a compromise worked out . IG Farben built a factory (named Buna Chemical Plant) for producing synthetic oil and rubber (from coal) in Auschwitz, which was the beginning of SS activity and camps in this location during the Holocaust . At its peak in 1944, this factory made use of 83,000 slave laborers . ANOTHER SUBPLOT: " . . . . . . . . . . . . . . according to documents found at Auschwitz, the DuPont chemical manufacturer clearly made and delivered Zyklon B and that, along with two German firms, Tesch/Stabenow and Degesch, they produced Zyklon B gas after they acquired the patent from IG Farben . Auschwitz's own website, however, has only this to say on the subject of Zyklon-B production: "The Zyklon used at Auschwitz concentration camp was produced by a firm called Degesch (Deutsche Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung mbH), with headquarters in Frankfurt am Main and forming a part of IG Farbenindustrie . " ( . auschwitz . org . pl/html/eng/historia_KL/cyklon_b_ok . html" target="_blank">www . auschwitz . org . pl) Used in Germany during the war and before as a pesticidal fumigant, there seems to be no reason why the Nazis would have found it necessary to obtain the chemical from the U . S . , even if a plausible explanation could be found for their having been able to do so after their declaration of war against the same nation . Finally, given the camp's location and in whose territory it lay throughout the Cold War, one can imagine that much would have been made of such "evidence" of complicity by an American firm in the Holocaust . <In other words, it was cleaned up and never made the press or the publics' eye . > The pesticide Zyklon B, for which IG Farben held the patent, was manufactured by Degesch (Deutsche Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung), which IG Farben had 42 . 2 percent (in shares) of and which had IG managers in its Managing Committee . Of the 24 directors of IG Farben indicted in the so-called IG Farben Trial (1947-1948) before a U . S . military tribunal at the subsequent Nuremberg Trials, 13 were sentenced to prison terms between one and eight years . Some of those indicted in the trial were subsequently made leaders of the post-war companies that split off from IG Farben, including those who were sentenced at Nuremberg . ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ The Carlisle Corporation, a mega-large-o world unto itself is owned by shareholders who . . . get this . . . have at the top of the list JB and cronies (again) . They manufacture and purvey war equipment and tooling for energy manipulation . Partial list of acquired holdings, ghost companies and outright wartime merchandising is as follows: (I've underscored the important ones, but that doesn't mean that the rest of them aren't into clandestine activities too) History of acquisitions * 10/05 ArvinMeritor Equipment for the manufacture of off-highway braking systems * 07/05 Zhejiang Kete Heavy-duty brake linings and brake shoes * 07/04 Trintex Corporation Semi-pneumatic tires and wheels for lawn and garden and industrial markets (armored rubber tires/bulletproof) * 06/03 Flo-Pac Manufacturer of brooms, brushes and cleaning tools * 10/02 MiraDri Waterproofing solutions for commercial and residential applications * 08/01 Dayco Power Transmission Rubber belts and accessories for industrial power transmission applications * 03/01 Connecting Devices,Inc . Designer and manufacturer of RF/microwave connectors and cable assemblies * 03/01 Wincanton Engineering Ltd . Cheese processing equipment for the European market * 01/01 EcoStar, Inc . Manufacturer of premium steep-slope roofing products * 01/01 Stork Friesland Evaporators and spray dryers for milk powder plants in the dairy and food processing industries . * 01/01 Paramount Plastics Injection molded automotive components * 01/01 Scheffers Equipment for dairy powder manufacturing * 09/00 Red River Mfg . Manufacturer of custom trailers & related paving apparatus for highway construction & trailers for other hauling industries * 07/00 Bontech Engineering Supplier of drying technology and plants to the feed, food, dairy, chemical, pharmaceutical and biochemical industries * 07/00 Zimmer Corp . Evaporators that process milk, whey and their by-products; also specializes in the design of high-temperature, aseptic food processing & dairy wastewater systems . * 06/00 UniTrek Company Specialty cable assemblies sold to OEM's in the wireless communications & electronic test & measurement markets * 05/00 Process Controls Engineering Software & Control Systems for Cheese, Dairy, Food & Beverage Manufacturing * 04/00 Titan Consumer Products Division OEM & aftermarket tires & wheels for lawn & garden, ATV & light-duty trailer markets * 04/00 Extract Technologies Biotechnology & Pharmaceutical Systems * 04/00 Dura-Ware, Inc . Commercial cookware & servingware * 02/00 Damrow Global equipment supplier of cheese-making systems * 01/00 DynAir, Inc . HVAC air duct accessories * 12/99 CRAGAR Industries, Inc . Specialty steel-based wheels * 12/99 Marko International, Inc . Manufacturer of table coverings, table skirtings & accessories * 11/99 Innovative Engineering, Ltd . Equipment supplier for cheese-making systems * 06/99 Johnson Truck Bodies Fiberglass custom truck bodies for foodservice distribution * 01/99 Global Manufacturers Stamped steel wheels for OEM & styled steel wheels for automotive aftermarket * 10/98 Industrial Tire Products Tire & wheel assemblies for the off-highway replacement market * 09/98 Quality Microwave Interconnects Precision cable assemblies * 03/98 Vermont Electromagnetics Specialty coaxial cable assemblies & connectors * 01/98 Hardcast Europe Adhesive & sealing products for European roofing, building & industrial tape markets * 12/97 Zimmerman Brush Co . Industrial brushes for janitorial & sanitation markets * 08/97 Tilden Corporation OEM lawn & garden tires & wheels * 07/97 Conestoga Co . Canadian lawn & garden, trailer & agricultural OEM specialty wheels * 07/97 Wheeltech Specialty wheel manufacturer * 05/97 Neilson Wheel OEM lawn & garden wheels & tires * 04/97 Overland Brakes Spring brakes used on air braked trucks, trailers & buses * 02/97 Sun Coast Industries Melamine dinnerware * 10/96 Hartstone Ceramic tableware, cookware & decorative kitchenware * 10/96 Engineered Plastics Division of Johnson Controls Plastic products for automobile exteriors * 08/96 Scherping Systems Cheese processing equipment * 03/96 Intero/Unique Steel & aluminum rims & wheels for auto & trailer aftermarket * 02/96 Insul-Foam Inc . Roofing products & fleeceback technology * 10/95 Walker Stainless Equipment Stainless steel tanks for transportation of liquids & in-plant processing * 09/95 Ti-Brook Dump bodies for trailers * 06/95 Trail King Specialized equipment trailers * 03/95 Thunderline Corporation Precision rubber products for transportation markets * 01/95 Sparta Brush Specialized brushes & cleaning tools * 06/94 Quaker Construction Products Commercial waterproofing & deck products * 03/93 Goodyear Roofing Systems EPDM commercial roofing products * 01/93 ECI Building Components Metal roofing & panels * 10/92 Altec Remanufactured heavy-duty brake shoes * 09/91 SiLite Incorporated Foodservice permanentware * 08/90 Brookpark Plastics Non-proprietary compression molded products * 08/90 BF Goodrich Off-Highway Braking Systems Dry disc brakes, valves & other components * 11/89 Roofers Supply Inc . Distributor of roofing supplies * 06/89 National Friction Products Specialty friction products for industrial applications Joint venture and equity investments history * 07/00 Moodyparts Joint venture with Moody PLC to distribute OEM and alternative spare parts to dairy and related process industries * 06/00 Icopal a/s Investment in a leading European roofing systems producer * 03/00 Beijing Carlisle Waterproofing Single-ply roofing systems for the Chinese market * 02/99 Shanghai Carlisle Stainless Equipment Fabricated stainless steel products for the Chinese food, dairy & pharmaceutical markets * 11/98 Prism Technologies Automotive components * 03/98 Hunter Panels Manufacturer of premium steep-slope roofing products * 12/97 Lander-Carlisle Engineered automotive components * 11/93 Carlisle Leasing International Worldwide leasing of ISO refrigerated containers * 01/92 Pagid-Carlisle, S . A . Manufacturer of custom trailers & related paving apparatus for highway construction & trailers for other hauling industries * 09/91 Jolly Tone-Carlisle Acrylic giftware for U . S . distribution * 08/90 Japan Power Brake Off-highway braking systems for Japanese markets Like I said . . . this is one of the newer primary LLCs that produces and sells military war equipment for all activities US Military . Guess who sits on the board of directors? Guess who is raking in profits from the war . . . every Hummer that gets destroyed (you destroy 'em, we build new ones!), ammunition (milk and dairy products - research it for yourselves), coal-to-oil technology that is somehow "not efficient yet" and held in the wings for when the oil is depleted or the world gets tired of paying rapist fees for it . Does that remind you of the R-12 / R-134a freon scare and the Helsinki Agreement? Try this one on: IF the world gets really tired of liquefied dinosaurs for fuel . . . or the prices gets too high . . or only certain countries get to buy it . . . then the doors will fly open and "We've discovered a brand-new way to refine coal into oil" will happen . The Arabs are nervous . . social and other demographic assessments show that there is a lot of tribal fighting and warring going on as to how to handle the new dereliction that bodes so heavily on them when the bubble bursts . They too are trying to diversify and get into the new energy source . . . and the resistance is manifest . They are fostering wars and insurrections in the "New" South American sites to get juntas and political overthrows of what JB and the rest of the Trilateral Commission are setting up . This point is critical: The largest and most productive year for oil production was 2005 . Since that time, the world has seen unrest like never before . Natch! Since the oil is limited, time is primary for the energy czars . 1) Oil field depletion is likely very real and known by higher-up people, Arabs and everyone else with eyes . . 2) A "new" energy form must be found . . . on the coattails of "green-thinking" and ecology-tree-huggers and global warming scares . 3) Science, chemistry and a new validation for man's greater good will arise in the form of technology that absolutely forbids individuality and free-thinking by the huddled masses . 4) Wars are conveniently used to mask the total takeover of the energy sources that right now don't look too promising . . coal is DIRTY . . . right? Not when it's all you can get it isn't! 5) So-called "christian nations" (1/3rd of the world) will have won against the Muslims (1/3rd of the world) in a War Of Energy Attrition, leaving the other 1/3rd of the world in the dark . So . . . that's why there's new funded and social awareness of this "Global Warming" . . . it's all just a vicious plot and if you fall for it, you will not see the man behind the curtain . The Arabs are running scared, forcing prices as high as they can to get their gold, sheikdoms, palaces and island nations and such . If they push too hard, they'll lose their house of cards sooner, rather than later . Guess who will be in the catbird's seat then? THIS REPORT WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY . . . . ME! PS: I've got a lot more . . . I dare you to ask! :thanks	SurferJoe46 (51)
665317	2008-05-04 23:49:00	Americans who travel abroad for the first time are often shocked to discover that, despite all the progress that has been made in the last 30 years, many foreign people still speak in foreign languages”	Cicero (40)
665318	2008-05-05 00:14:00	What is it good for? Creating presidential legacy's Say it again, "huh!"	Thebananamonkey (7741)
665319	2008-05-05 00:33:00	Surferjoe . . . did you really write all of that yourself? It's impressive . A little tin-foil-hat wearing, but still very impressive .	Thebananamonkey (7741)
665320	2008-05-05 03:23:00	Surferjoe . . . did you really write all of that yourself? It's impressive . A little tin-foil-hat wearing, but still very impressive . We wear ALUMINUM hats here . . . . . tin is so . . er . . . Ye Olde World-ish . Thanks for the accolade . :blush: I wrote a lot and had to C/P some from WIKI . . esp the parts about the co-miseration-ary <my new word for the day> consolidations of the aforementioned companies . Much I have in my mind and I thank the internet for bringing some of it to fruition . Some I editorialized for my own purposes as I didn't see that all of it was purposeful to the situation about which I was wanting to write . Funny enough, there are a lot of so-called world-watchers who say the same things . . . . I just tried to nutshell it a little . If you believe in Tinker Bell, clap . If you believe in the Tri-Lateral Commission, shudder .	SurferJoe46 (51)
665321	2008-05-05 05:10:00	Nah . . . better than that . . . . South America . . . and the Carlisle company . . . . . . . mostly/heavilly owned by JB's family . JB = George Bush?	beeswax34 (63)
665322	2008-05-05 09:57:00	Nah . . . better than that . . . . South America . . . and the Carlisle company . . . . . . . mostly/heavilly owned by JB's family . JB = George Bush? Ummmmm . . . could be! . . . or a brand of Scotch Whiskey . . . . . either way . . . . . <hears large crashing footsteps on front door as it splinters open to reveal . . . ah! . . . NO! . . . NO! . . . . . . gurgle! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >	SurferJoe46 (51)
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