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| Thread ID: 145574 | 2017-12-07 00:27:00 | Don Brash says "Te Reo use is pointless." | Roscoe (6288) | PC World Chat |
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| 1443057 | 2017-12-08 04:56:00 | At times I like to be awkward :) However I don't like the compulsory part that the more extreme ?? are proposing. It should be voluntary in schools, there are enough lobbyists already pushing for their pet "hardly subjects" to be included in the curriculum. From my experience there is only room for one, or maybe two at the most, non-English languages to be taught. One plus in favour of Maori, or a Chinese language is that there is much more opportunity to use it in everyday life, and hence achieve fluency. Not so in this part of the world for European languages. Whenever I went to Germany on business I only spoke the German I knew, both everyday German and technical, and I got by just fine. You can imagine the outcry if it was proposed that English as spoken by that most perfect of English speakers on RNZ, Catriona MacLeod was to be made compulsory. It would be a real boost for Maori and New Zilders too :) :clap I suspect she changed the pronunciation of her name from the Gaelic "Katreena" which she used to introduce herself with because she got pissed off with people mispronouncing her name. www.radionz.co.nz Hands up anyone who can't understand what she is saying, and she is not English either. Someone mentioned Maori being smooth and flowing, the main criticism about RNZ has been directed at Guyon Espiner speaking with rapid fire staccato Maori, and not with the gravitas one associates with Maori. Though I think I am detecting a slight slowing down, probably because he has read the criticisms. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 1443058 | 2017-12-08 07:27:00 | Roman Numerals have been more useful to me than Tahi, Rua, Toru, Wha. One is a stupid, outdated numbering system from a dead/dying culture. The other is Te Reo. Draw your own conclusions. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1443059 | 2017-12-08 20:42:00 | And just for good measure, I’m sick of every News Broadcast having at least one video of a chronically obese Maori, covered in scribble, standing there pulling faces and poking out his tongue whilst slapping his naked backside. Like those embarrassments they drag out from some East Cape ghetto and use to welcome visitors and dignitaries to the country? Yeah...really representative of who we are as a nation. |
allblack (6574) | ||
| 1443060 | 2017-12-08 20:54:00 | I actually attended a church boarding school where in those days about half the roll were maori. Te Reo was compulsory and even to this day many decades later I can recite some of the prayers and blessings etc having learnt them by rote. But interestingly, the top student in Maori was pakeha, who subsequently went on to become a uni professor and an authority on Te Reo. Academically the school was nothing but awful, achievement seemingly been regarded on whether was First XV material or not. The school did turn out some notables, including an absolute thick bastard who had about 3 attempts at School Certificate, but went on to achieve a doctorate from Harvard. But then there were other including a local "king" who has difficulty in stringing together enough words to make an intelligible sentence in English - let alone speak Te Reo - and some appallingly cringeworthy politicians. Te Reo? Forget it. |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1443061 | 2017-12-08 21:25:00 | Like those embarrassments they drag out from some East Cape ghetto and use to welcome visitors and dignitaries to the country? Yeah...really representative of who we are as a nation. Is this what you're talking about? :lol: 8489 |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1443062 | 2017-12-08 22:10:00 | However, the other side of the coin in todays news: "Massive upsurge in white New Zealand wanting to learn te reo" www.stuff.co.nz This is good because it is voluntary and may help to prevent a language dying out. But on the other hand we have the Greens wanting to make it compulsory: "Greens lay out plan for compulsory te reo Māori in all schools" www.stuff.co.nz Edit: it is worth reading the comments to this, I like this one: "Based on so (some?) of the communication skills of a few older school kids, they should start teaching English as well... " |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 1443063 | 2017-12-08 22:40:00 | Yeah - I once worked for a wealthy mid 50's "hardened" pakeha/white/Dalmatian, marketing manager (originally from Dargaville way), into yachting with Digby Taylor, drove flash cars, had a massive flash house, etc. One day he bought in a baked maori bread (rewana I think he called it), that he baked, He also spoke maori somewhat fluently Gave us workers a fright. He was just a country boy - though a bit pushy, and worked up aggressively in corporate NZ. But grew up with Maori families. | kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1443064 | 2017-12-10 17:30:00 | Yes if people want to learn or speak Maori its up to to them. Its also a bit rude to do so. But as for teaching Maori in schools no way. Its a complete waste of time. I It has a very small vocabulary with no written literature. 2 Its of no use as regards trade or science. Better to learn one of those top 10 languages (not Polish) And bedda to improve all of our English and maths |
Digby (677) | ||
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