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Thread ID: 89879	2008-05-14 23:41:00	Hitler or Hindu Row	Roscoe (6288)	PC World Chat

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669531	2008-05-15 09:27:00	Jesus Christ, what a load of dribble. how about you suck it in, Ask yourself how arrogant it is to state that the vets just need to "get over it",While you pat yourself on the back for your ability to forgive. I'm sure the vast majority of them harbour no ill will towards the general population of Germany, the reasoning isn't about forgiveness, But its obviously beyond your grasp.	Metla (12)
669532	2008-05-15 09:45:00	Jesus Christ, what a load of dribble. how about you suck it in, Ask yourself how arrogant it is to state that the vets just need to "get over it",While you pat yourself on the back for your ability to forgive. I'm sure the vast majority of them harbour no ill will towards the general population of Germany, the reasoning isn't about forgiveness, But its obviously beyond your grasp. Obviously - in your little world - the best form of defence is personal attack. You don't change, do you? Most probably never will.:illogical	Roscoe (6288)
669533	2008-05-15 09:49:00	If the Nazi flag had had the cross on it, would we say the cross is an inherently nazi symbol?	GoodHour (12218)
669534	2008-05-15 09:53:00	ah, So, the world needs to change to fit your view. My apologies for considering you an arrogant twat, I was way way way way way way way way off the mark. Perhaps you could consider that people are capable of comprehending your view, and yet can still disagree with you, No? And perhaps these same people would take it as a insult to be talked as they were somehow less enlightened or as some may say,stupid. Anyway, my little would sure ain't as pretentious as yours, Thank god. Too busy trying to demonstrate your goldenness to notice what goes over your head.	Metla (12)
669535	2008-05-15 09:53:00	But it was not one of the blokes that fought in WWII that was complaining (in fact I think most of them are dead by now), it was the SON. You have to be looking for things to complain about to be offended for imagined offence to your long dead father. What a prick!! In contrast, the little Hindu man interviewed on TV was aghast that he had caused offence and tried to put things right. Tried to put things right? How? By putting a few stars and extra blobs of paint about perhaps. Possibly you could paint a rather large sign or symbol on your roof. If you did then what would it say to other people? What could they assume from it? BTW I do not assume usually but I have the questions and I would like answers. "offended for imagined offence to your long dead father." Now what do you mean by that? How do you know the Father was not offended against? Explain if you can please. Please note that I am just curious. When I was a child there were no mosques in New Zealand but there are now. Never been inside one but I tolerate them being here. This the same as I do believe there is good and bad in most people all over the world and just because a single bad person I meet happens to be a certain race I can't hate all of them. I do not think I would have got on well with Hitler and his followers, along with Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Ghengis Khan, Idi Amin and lately some others.	Sweep (90)
669536	2008-05-15 09:58:00	If the Nazi flag had had the cross on it, would we say the cross is an inherently nazi symbol? Good observation, although I think that you would be treading on many a Roman toe suggesting that. With a good portion of the world professing to be Christian, I think that anyone of note advocating that the cross was a Nazi symbol would possibly be nailed to one! If that were the case, I wonder how many Christians would be brave enough to paint it on their roof?	Roscoe (6288)
669537	2008-05-15 10:05:00	If the Nazi flag had had the cross on it, would we say the cross is an inherently nazi symbol? The swastika is still used by Nazi's worldwide, Its the most recognisable and powerful white power symbol in existence, People who hate still use it as a rally point, or to make a point, the legacy of the actions taken under the Nazi flag is still alive within our society and others around the world. People who are proud of the horror brought to bear by the nazi's place great honour in the symbol, and the bloodshed that was performed under it. No matter what its history before WW2, The actions of the nazi's and others who have adopted the symbol since WW2 have tainted the symbol for these times, Its most powerful and recent association is with Genocide on a scale never seen before. Paint it on your roof?, moron. For what its worth, Nazi's and White Power also use different variations of the swastika, it doesn't change anything. in answer to your question, if the cross had been used instead it would definitely be tainted with blood, Though it wouldn't have had the same effect in my opinion, the Godless would not pick the symbol of god.	Metla (12)
669538	2008-05-15 10:27:00	The swastika is had has always been a symbol of god, and many thousands of years older than the cross. There are roughly a couple of thousand times more Hindus and Budhists for whom the swastika is a living symbol than there are neo-nazis. By continuing to attribute the nazi meaning to the swastika, do are doing exactly what neo-nazis want you to do. on the subject of symbolism that people may find offensive, are you aware that you have a satanic avatar?	GoodHour (12218)
669539	2008-05-15 10:44:00	The swastika is had has always been a symbol of god, and many thousands of years older than the cross. There are roughly a couple of thousand times more Hindus and Budhists for whom the swastika is a living symbol than there are neo-nazis. By continuing to attribute the nazi meaning to the swastika, do are doing exactly what neo-nazis want you to do. on the subject of symbolism that people may find offensive, are you aware that you have a satanic avatar? Nice to see a sane voice among us. The wise old New Testament saying, "Cast not your pearls before the swine, lest they trample them under their feet" seems apt. And to your second point - of course - and proud of it - attempted intimidation. Little or no effect, otherwise.	Roscoe (6288)
669540	2008-05-15 10:48:00	I shouldn't have to point out my comments were in relation to symbols within our socity, Our symbols of our most popular diety, and what the swastiki represents within our society. how its done in India, now or ten thousand years ago have little relevance to someone painting a symbol on their roof in Auckland, A symbol that represents certain things within our NZ society. If The roof were in a Hindu country then it wouldn't been an event now would it? We don't attribute the Swastika to the actions of the nazi, they did that themselves in WW2, You can't just deny it, Sure you can try, You can even pat yourself on the back, means nothing.	Metla (12)
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