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Thread ID: 89879	2008-05-14 23:41:00	Hitler or Hindu Row	Roscoe (6288)	PC World Chat

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669521	2008-05-15 04:10:00	Wasn't the Nazi salute based on the Roman Empire's/Army salute?	Biggles (121)
669522	2008-05-15 04:43:00	Charles Lindbergh flew 50 combat mission in the Pacific in WW2 and made a big contribution to the Pacific air war. This is not very well known and how it came about is detailed at this link www.ww2pacific.com He was cheeky though, and flew as a contractor to the military. He must have made an absolute packet out of it. He was also sent to Germany pre-WW2 to inspect the luftwaffe, on top secret orders from the US army. He was a really interesting man. It was funny though, his bigotry, if you can call it that, enabled him to really fight for ethnic minorities rights. He fought for them in the same way that people fight for tigers and elephants and such. He was very much for preserving them, but in an animal way, not a human way. Like I said. Interesting man. And I'm sure the salute was somewhat based on the roman one, however it was incredibly common in the states pre-WW2, as I said. I think it would have come more directly from there. But everything comes from the romans eventually.	Thebananamonkey (7741)
669523	2008-05-15 05:18:00	He was cheeky though, and flew as a contractor to the military. He must have made an absolute packet out of it. He flew as a contractor because he wasn't allowed to join the military. His pro-German statements and activities prior to the US joining the war doing go down well with the FDR administration and his applications to join the USAAF were rejected.	Biggles (121)
669524	2008-05-15 05:54:00	He flew as a contractor because he wasn't allowed to join the military . His pro-German statements and activities prior to the US joining the war doing go down well with the FDR administration and his applications to join the USAAF were rejected . They weren't pro-german per-se though, just anti involvement . Which to anyone after WW2 sounds like the same thing . But large amounts of americans resented being dragged into a european war . Some people think pearl harbour was known about in advance, but FDR ignored it as an excuse to engage . I don't really know, or care that much about that . All I know is that he didn't feel that it was the US's place to get involved in someone elses war .	Thebananamonkey (7741)
669525	2008-05-15 06:23:00	Notwithstanding Lindberghs' views about Germany before the war, he was and still is rightly regarded as an American hero . 1927 was certainly a great year, and of course his achievement was celebrated in many songs . . . . Lucky Lindbergh ( . jazz-on-line . com/ram/VIC38826 . ram" target="_blank">www . jazz-on-line . com), the eagle of the USA . Then there was a dance, The Lindy Hop ( . redhotjazz . com/songs/ellington/cotton/thatlindyhop . ram" target="_blank">www . redhotjazz . com) which is still danced today by Lindy Hop enthusiasts in the US . youtube . com/watch?v=mBdAuXr4ssQ" target="_blank">www . youtube . com	Terry Porritt (14)
669526	2008-05-15 06:28:00	Notwithstanding Lindberghs' views about Germany before the war, he was and still is rightly regarded as an American hero . 1927 was certainly a great year, and of course his achievement was celebrated in many songs . . . . Lucky Lindbergh ( . jazz-on-line . com/ram/VIC38826 . ram" target="_blank">www . jazz-on-line . com), the eagle of the USA . Then there was a dance, The Lindy Hop ( . redhotjazz . com/songs/ellington/cotton/thatlindyhop . ram" target="_blank">www . redhotjazz . com) which is still danced today by Lindy Hop enthusiasts in the US . youtube . com/watch?v=mBdAuXr4ssQ" target="_blank">www . youtube . com The only reason I know anything about him is I was in an opera in the arts festival at the beginning of the year . Kurt Weill/Bertholdt Brechts The Lindberghflug/The Flight over the Ocean . Really good fun actually . One day before practice I went nuts on wikipedia looking up links to all the stuff he was involved in . There went my afternoon :D .	Thebananamonkey (7741)
669527	2008-05-15 07:12:00	Totally agree. Pity a few more of the people who fought in WWII against the Nazis thought that as well. Unfortunately so many of them have loooong memories and can't find it in their hearts to forgive.:( Who the hell are you to judge those that fought in WW2? The symbol has been tainted by the most evil acts ever commited by mankind.	Metla (12)
669528	2008-05-15 09:17:00	Who the hell are you to judge those that fought in WW2? The symbol has been tainted by the most evil acts ever commited by mankind. I believe you are taking what I said out of context. Perhaps you should read the previous comments before you comment. I was not judging anybody - I have relatives who fought in Europe, North Africa and the Pacific and from their tales I have an idea of the horrors of WWII. None of these people hold any grudges against what was then the enemy, rather the governments of the time who were sending them out to fight. Forgiving someone does not mean absolving them of their responsibility for what happened. It means letting go of the pain and hurt that you feel and reclaiming control over your life. You should not forgive as a gift to the person who has wronged you; instead you are doing it as a gift to yourself. There is a difference between forgiving and forgetting. One can forgive, without forgetting what happened. You may never forget but you can choose to forgive. The Hindus used the symbol long before Hitler stole it, besides their version is different anyway. As long as people understand the difference they should have no problem with it. I certainly don't. That was what I was replying to. I was not judging anyone, just agreeing with Agent 24. As he said - the Hindus version (much closer to the original) is different. Only to those not in the know, do the different versions seem to be the same.	Roscoe (6288)
669529	2008-05-15 09:21:00	But it was not one of the blokes that fought in WWII that was complaining (in fact I think most of them are dead by now), it was the SON. You have to be looking for things to complain about to be offended for imagined offence to your long dead father. What a prick!! In contrast, the little Hindu man interviewed on TV was aghast that he had caused offence and tried to put things right.	TideMan (4279)
669530	2008-05-15 09:26:00	I can understand how a symbol can be misused. If we take a christian symbol like the cross and rotate this 180% it is not going to get the original meaning across. My guess is it boils down to what you tolerate and what you don't. www.luckymojo.com And for Roscoe:- New Zealand is NOT a free Country where you can say what you like about anything. The Government here has enacted a bill which tells you to **** during election year. People are not allowed to discriminate in many areas these days. To take a more simple example this forum has rules. If you do not obey those rules then you just get banned rather than shot or gassed. (Thanks to the moderators) for that.	Sweep (90)
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