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| Thread ID: 90074 | 2008-05-22 07:32:00 | Kahui innocent - Police close case? | SolMiester (139) | PC World Chat |
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| 671426 | 2008-05-23 05:27:00 | Ditto. | BobM (1138) | ||
| 671427 | 2008-05-23 05:51:00 | Kahui was found not guilty, there is a big difference between that and being innocent. | plod (107) | ||
| 671428 | 2008-05-23 06:27:00 | Kahui was found not guilty, there is a big difference between that and being innocent. This is obviously a dysfunctional family. Those children should not have died at the hands of whomever did the acts but the whanau closed shop and refused to talk to police as is their right under NZ law. Personally I agree with that right. Given a week or two with anyone I could possibly get them to confess to anything even if they were not there. Sleep deprivation works fairly well for example. The police did not present enough evidence to convict Kahui in the court and that makes him not guilty. Now some people think the mother did it. So what say the police charge the mother and it goes to trial. So then the father can give evidence and confess to the fact that he did it thus letting the mother off the hook. The father has already been found not guilty and can't be tried again for the same offence. As I found out there may have been two older children in the house that night who may be guilty or not. This is hearsay evidence but in my view it is just as likely a scenario. The whanau closed ranks to protect the two older children maybe. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 671429 | 2008-05-23 07:20:00 | This is obviously a dysfunctional family. Those children should not have died at the hands of whomever did the acts but the whanau closed shop and refused to talk to police as is their right under NZ law. Personally I agree with that right. Given a week or two with anyone I could possibly get them to confess to anything even if they were not there. Sleep deprivation works fairly well for example. The police did not present enough evidence to convict Kahui in the court and that makes him not guilty. Now some people think the mother did it. So what say the police charge the mother and it goes to trial. So then the father can give evidence and confess to the fact that he did it thus letting the mother off the hook. The father has already been found not guilty and can't be tried again for the same offence. As I found out there may have been two older children in the house that night who may be guilty or not. This is hearsay evidence but in my view it is just as likely a scenario. The whanau closed ranks to protect the two older children maybe. still doesn't make him innocent |
plod (107) | ||
| 671430 | 2008-05-23 07:50:00 | still doesn't make him innocent Can you prove that he is not innocent? If so then you should have been a witness at the trial. Perhaps you should go the way of the Scots where they have or had "Guilty" "Not Guilty" or "Not proven". I do not know of any court anywhere that finds a person innocent as such. They are either guilty as charged or not as the case may be. A jury found him not guilty as charged. I did not imply he was innocent. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 671431 | 2008-05-23 08:22:00 | Look at it this way guys, things like this are bound to happen when the Uniformed Branch of the IRD get involved in crime. :( Wasn’t it about a year ago that they couldn’t find a body that was in the boot of a car parked outside the murder scene? I bet you I would have found who killed the twins in no time at all! I would have simply bundled up the whole lot, chucked them in a Paddy Wagon and told them they would all be held at Pare’ until we found who did it. Given the background of the family they would be fully aware of how the existing residents of Pare’ view Child Molesters and Child Killers and I’m confident the evidence required would be extracted well before the Pare’ gates. If not, it wouldn’t have taken long for the existing residents to extract the information. Job done, too simple. :thumbs: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 671432 | 2008-05-23 08:31:00 | Right from the beginning though the extended family made it hard for police, witnesses changing accounts (lying), finger pointing but no back up etc, pathetic result. I hope the parents are kneecapped or something as death would be too good for them, maybe the babies are luckier where they are. |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 671433 | 2008-05-23 09:43:00 | Right from the beginning though the extended family made it hard for police, witnesses changing accounts (lying), finger pointing but no back up etc, pathetic result. I hope the parents are kneecapped or something as death would be too good for them, maybe the babies are luckier where they are. I agree. The police were weak kneed lilly livered, they should have put all 11 of them in custody until one of them talked and said that if they did not talk they would all be deprived of their benefits for ever. And parliament and Helen should have backed them up. Someone did it and someone knows who. And as for that idiot Police inspector in charge of the case. He looks like he has the IQ of a six year old. How can he say they will not pursue the matter further just one hour after the juries verdict ? And what a weak case he must have presented if the jury only took an hour ? Still it is two less probable violent teenagers's that we will not have to support and put up with their crime. Many Maoris have children so they can get on the dpb and so they boys can live off their girlfriends. Why is almost all child abuse done by Maori's ? Why is most violent crime done by Maori's We would have good statistics in all facets of life if we excluded Maoris and Islanders. Not prejudiced as I married one of them. |
Digby (677) | ||
| 671434 | 2008-05-23 09:49:00 | From what I understand all the direct witnesses (the family) clammed up. Therefor all the police had left would be largely scientific evidence . Often in those cases you can have expert witness being countered by another expert witness I suspect the police went with the best they could get If any of this family get near a microphone,pencil or camera a good reporter should be asking one question only I dont have to state what the question is If there is any hint of a paid interview for one of the members of the family ,there will be a lot of anger out there I am also surprised how quickly the jury came to its verdit, it just seems to hasty to me |
Paul Camford (10007) | ||
| 671435 | 2008-05-23 21:13:00 | still doesn't make him innocent You've not heard of "innocent until proven guilty" then...? |
Deane F (8204) | ||
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