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807636 2009-09-07 09:39:00 Hello everyone,

I have just finished my networking and have upgraded from my dial up plan to using broadband. At the meantime I have Telecom as my ISP and as part of the plan came the Thomson wireless modem. I have not experienced any issues yet and everything is working well and fast. My network is all Ethernet at the moment.

My Problem at the moment
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My question relates to my earlier network setup using dial up before coming on board to broadband. My PC's at home were part of a network group. I could share folders, and access information from other PC's within the network. Unfortunately, since coming to broadband, I no longer can use my assigned network address like: 192.168.03 for one computer and 192.168.06 for another.

The only way I can continue to receive broadband for all PCs on the network is by having my TC/IP settings with 'Obtain an IP address automatically' under Local Connection in Network Connections settings.

What I hope to achieve now
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I still want to have my own network, with my own network address so that I can continue to share and access information and still have broadband access.

Can some one please help me outline the steps in order to achieve this via the Thomson website: 192.168.1.254 I tried to do this myself, but got stuck and found the help information a little confusing to follow.

Thanks

Just for information:
The wireless device is a 4 port Thomson TG585v7
I do have a Linksys WAG2000 device, but found It couldn't detect my gateway device during the installation stages.
The Boss (11407)
807637 2009-09-07 09:53:00 Set each with a static IP like so:

IP Address: 192.168.1.X
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.254

DNS 1: 192.168.1.254
DNS 2: 208.67.222.222

Also-check if the Thomsom can set Static DHCP addressed(i.e hand out the same IPs to specific PCs). It'll mean you won't need to do it on each PC.

Also, the Linksys WAG200 is an all in one ADSL2+ Router. What do you mean by it couldn't detect your "gateway"?

Oh, and BTW you can access other PCs' shared files/printers by typing \\PC Name, not just \\IP of PC
Cheers
Blam
Blam (54)
807638 2009-09-07 10:44:00 Hi .
Thank you for your response .

Using your instructions for the DHCP Pools option .

I enter the following:

Interface: Local Network
Start Address: 192 . 168 . 1 . 1
End Address:
Subnet Mask: 255 . 255 . 255 . 0
Server:
Gateway: 192 . 168 . 1 . 254
Primary DNS: 192 . 168 . 1 . 254
Secondary DNS: 208 . 67 . 222 . 222
Primary WINS:
Secondary WINS:
Lease Time: infinite
[Check box: (ticked) : Always give same address to DHCP clients]

After I click the Apply button I receive an error message:

"Validation failed for (End Address) . This IP address is not valid for this field . Please correct and try again . " OK .

I am assuming it is going to fail unless I enter all the above details . Can you please tell me what else I need to fill out?




Meanwhile when I make any changes under IP ADDRESSES:


10 . 0 . 0 . 138/24 Static Edit Delete
192 . 168 . 1 . 254/24 Static Edit Delete

When I click the 'Add button' for a new address and enter in the following:

192 . 168 . 1 . 1 [box 1] and 255 . 255 . 255 . 0 [box2], I receive the following error message:

Validation failed for (Netmask) . This IP address is not valid for this field .
Please correct and try again . OK

I also have an option under TCP/IP Configuration

Auto-IP Enabled: [check box: not ticked](default)
Use DHCP Server: [check box: ticked] (default)


As for the Linksys message: It says that the Gateway is unreachable .

Hope that helps .
The Boss (11407)
807639 2009-09-07 10:54:00 No, I mean use those settings for LAN settings on each PC-not for the DHCP pool.

For the DHCP pool just leave it all on defaults.

Or, we can change the DHCP pool rather than LAN settings-your choice
Blam (54)
807640 2009-09-07 11:34:00 Hi.

Thanks for your help.

I did the above steps for two test machines. Both can access the internet with no problems and I can assign individual IP addresses.

For one PC: 192.168.1.8 and the other is: 192.168.4

However, I am unable to 'see' the other computer(s) in My Network Places. I have tried restarting both PC's and tried pinging.

When I type ping: office for one of my machines I see the following:
----------------------------------------------------------------
Pinging Office.Oceans.local [::1] with 32 bytes of data:

reply from ::1: time<1ms
reply from ::1: time<1ms
reply from ::1: time<1ms

ping statistics for ::1:
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Is there need for me to be alarmed with the above result for one of my test computers? Can you explain what causes this, or have I done something wrong here.

Cheers.
The Boss (11407)
807641 2009-09-07 11:49:00 reply from ::1: time<1ms
reply from ::1: time<1ms
reply from ::1: time<1ms

ping statistics for ::1:


By looking at that I'd say you just pinged the machine itself . I suspect you're using Vista?

::1 = 127 . 0 . 0 . 1 = localhost

So those results are fine but do nothing for what you're trying to achieve .

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Try using the 'hostname' of the machine, rather than the IP address . Because if the ip address is given out by the router (thompson in your case) it can change, while the hostname will remain the same .

Hostname:
Start > run > Type 'cmd' > click 'ok' > type 'hostname' > press enter

That will give you the name of the machine .

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Do the above step on Machine A . Go on Machine B and do this:

start > run > type '\\hostname_of_a' > press Enter

That will open up any shared folders/printers on machine A . Using the hostname is the same as using the IP address but easier to remember in a dynamic environment .

Hope that helps .




Gregor
WarNox (8772)
807642 2009-09-07 12:07:00 By looking at that I'd say you just pinged the machine itself . I suspect you're using Vista?

::1 = 127 . 0 . 0 . 1 = localhost

So those results are fine but do nothing for what you're trying to achieve .

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Try using the 'hostname' of the machine, rather than the IP address . Because if the ip address is given out by the router (thompson in your case) it can change, while the hostname will remain the same .

Hostname:
Start > run > Type 'cmd' > click 'ok' > type 'hostname' > press enter

That will give you the name of the machine .

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Do the above step on Machine A . Go on Machine B and do this:

start > run > type '\\hostname_of_a' > press Enter

That will open up any shared folders/printers on machine A . Using the hostname is the same as using the IP address but easier to remember in a dynamic environment .

Hope that helps .




Gregor

Hi Gregor,

Yes that is correct . I was pinging my own machine called: OFFICE .
When I tried pinging 'OFFICE' (Name of my machine) I ended up with the:

reply from ::1: time<1ms (responses)

which I have not seen before and is a first for me . Meanwhile my other test machine called 'BEAST' is fine with the response below:


Pinging Beast . OCEANS . local [192 . 168 . 1 . 8] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192 . 168 . 1 . 8: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192 . 168 . 1 . 8: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192 . 168 . 1 . 8: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192 . 168 . 1 . 8: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

My operating system is Windows XP .

Thanks for your help . I'm trying to get my computers to be visible in My Network Places . At the moment, I can only see one [which is the name of one of the test machines] .
The Boss (11407)
807643 2009-09-07 12:15:00 If you can only see one of the machines and the network settings are standard across the board I'd say there is a firewall blocking somewhere.

Try turning any firewall off just to do a test. If you're using Zone Alarm and your home network range (IP range) has changed you will have to add the new range to the Trusted Zone. But just to do a test turn all the firewalls off.

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::1 is IPv6's way of saying 'localhost' and since Vista generally displays stuff in IPv6 I assumed it was Vista. XP's is better though :)

My Network Places never quite works as it should, in my experience. Sometimes machines show up sometimes they don't. I just create shortcuts for any shares that I need to access on other machines.
WarNox (8772)
807644 2009-09-07 12:28:00 Hey thanks for that. I will give it a try too.

Cheers
The Boss (11407)
807645 2009-09-07 12:29:00 Do you have Norton or any restrictive security suite or firewall?

If you do, disable them and try again.

And I agree with WarNox. Network places has never worked for me, so I just type in \\IP of PC usually, although I've found "Network" in Vista does work and you can actually see the modems, routers and PCs connected.

Also-how many PCs are there, and what OS do each of them run?

Blam
Blam (54)
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