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| Thread ID: 90767 | 2008-06-15 20:45:00 | Vodaphone PrePay still 28th out of 30 | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 678696 | 2008-06-16 09:01:00 | The question I ask is :- Do you really need a mobile phone if it is for personal use?? PJ. Annoying as they can be at times, several million New Zealander's would say YES |
vitalstatistix (9182) | ||
| 678697 | 2008-06-16 21:48:00 | Paul, aside from a 10MB data daily usage cap (which shouldn't be too hard to hit) what is your monthly data usage plan worth? and how much data does that involve? Incidently when you can download a song for 3MB that only leaves you with 7MB of data for the rest of your day and that's only ONE song. Have you guys considered what happens when you start checking email, exchanging files via MS Exchange, checking your accounts and invoicing (Xero accounting software), searching on Google, watching a couple of clips on youtube, make a couple of dozen calls, send a few pics of that new job/product to a client etc etc - you might find that that remaining 7MB doesn't go very far... You might need to adjust your plans a bit. Have a read care of BusinessWeek www.businessweek.com The $1/day plan is a CASUAL RATE so you can jump on and see what's going on... it's not for heavy users and it's not designed for laptops etc. If you're a regular user you should be on a plan. If you're a laptop user wanting mobile data we have some of the cheapest plans in the world. 3GB on Broadband Pro costs $69.95 on a 2 year plan. Add another 3GB for $10 and you're mobile with 6GB for $79.95. Telecom's equivalent fixed line 6GB plan from Xtra will cost you over $90. It's very unusual to find a mobile broadband offer that's on a par with a fixed line offer in the same market. Mobile phones don't need as much in the way of traffic because they typically don't use that much. Mauricio from Geekzone tells me he uses around 150MB a month on his Windows-based phone... email and some surfing. Mobile broadband isn't a replacement for fixed line so it shouldn't be treated as such. Cheers Paul |
Paul Brislen (13625) | ||
| 678698 | 2008-06-16 22:13:00 | The question I ask is :- Do you really need a mobile phone if it is for personal use?? PJ. Or, do you really need a POTS 24/7 for just a few calls a day? They certainly lack user-friendliness. |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 678699 | 2008-06-16 22:21:00 | Mobile data plans are the core of the pricing issue. More and more people are wanting access to the internet wherever they happen to be, with whatever device they prefer, be it smartphone or laptop. The reason I went with a Woosh PC Card 4 years ago (I know, they're not REAL broadband, but it's close enough for me) was that I got 10GB a month for a flat rate of $54.95 inc GST a month (contract-free!!!!). No-one else was offering a flat-rate mobile plan at that time. That 10GB cap has been doubled in the last year - the price has remained the same. So Paul, $69.95 a month for a measly 3GB (albeit at a faster-than-Woosh speed) is still raping and pillaging your customers in my book. I would get through 3GB in a week of personal and business use! Of course, it goes without saying that Telecom are the masters of rape and pillage, Vodafone are the acolytes! |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 678700 | 2008-06-16 23:52:00 | @johcar, mobile data will always be more costly than fixed-line data. To offer a mobile plan that delivers ON A PAR with fixed line pricing in the same market is almost unheard of. Vodafone NZ's 6GB plan was, until recently, the cheapest in the Vodafone family... Vodafone Australia's new 5GB plan beats it but that's only a promotional activity as far as I'm aware. You've chosen to go with Woosh which is, as you say, not fast enough to be "real broadband" (your words). You've made the decision to take a slower speed for the price. Fair enough, that's what choice is all about. I'd rather pay more and get the faster speeds and the mobility. My brother would rather pay more for fixed line broadband to the house. Claiming that somehow Vodafone is mistreating its customers is a bit absurd - you have alternatives. Nobody is forcing you to be a customer of any particular company. Cheers Paul |
Paul Brislen (13625) | ||
| 678701 | 2008-06-17 00:33:00 | It's very unusual to find a mobile broadband offer that's on a par with a fixed line offer in the same market. I'd agree. However, if you're trying to tell me you're an example of this, you must be kidding. $90 for 6GB would be the worst plan in the world. We have a 30GB plan for not much more than that. As far as mobile plans go, 6GB for $90 isn't too bad. But don't even try to say that's on par with fixed lines. Even with NZ's hyper-inflated, low bandwidth "Broadband" plans. |
Thebananamonkey (7741) | ||
| 678702 | 2008-06-17 00:39:00 | Nobody is forcing you to be a customer of any particular company. That should be your new marketing campaign. I think you're on to a real winner. "Vodafone; If you think we're too expensive, and not competing on a world scale, go somewhere else.". Safe in the knowledge that you're "competing" with telecom. Who are even worse. Or how about "Vodafone; bend over and take it, we're gentler than telecom, and we'll cuddle you afterwards" Nice one vodafone. |
Thebananamonkey (7741) | ||
| 678703 | 2008-06-17 01:11:00 | Will there be new data plans on the 28th? What will happen to the data plans from july 28? |
Ninjabear (2948) | ||
| 678704 | 2008-06-17 01:18:00 | @johcar, mobile data will always be more costly than fixed-line data . To offer a mobile plan that delivers ON A PAR with fixed line pricing in the same market is almost unheard of . Vodafone NZ's 6GB plan was, until recently, the cheapest in the Vodafone family . . . Vodafone Australia's new 5GB plan beats it but that's only a promotional activity as far as I'm aware . You've chosen to go with Woosh which is, as you say, not fast enough to be "real broadband" (your words) . You've made the decision to take a slower speed for the price . Fair enough, that's what choice is all about . I'd rather pay more and get the faster speeds and the mobility . My brother would rather pay more for fixed line broadband to the house . Claiming that somehow Vodafone is mistreating its customers is a bit absurd - you have alternatives . Nobody is forcing you to be a customer of any particular company . Cheers Paul Paul - I agree I have made a choice of providers (a Hobson's Choice! - I'd love to be able to justify full-speed mobile BB to SWMBO), but I can't see the difference (from a consumers point of view) between the Woosh Wireless/20GB a month @ $54 . 95 (slow BB) plan and the Vodafone/3GB a month @ $69 . 95 plan . Both services are delivered via the ether . Why the huge difference in price? It can't all be a price differential based on speed, surely!!!! The same type of cellsites are used for both (AFAIK) and the technology can't be that different . . . |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 678705 | 2008-06-17 01:44:00 | . Mobile phones don't need as much in the way of traffic because they typically don't use that much . Mauricio from Geekzone tells me he uses around 150MB a month on his Windows-based phone . . . email and some surfing . Mobile broadband isn't a replacement for fixed line so it shouldn't be treated as such . Cheers Paul Historically mobile phones haven't used much web data because: A the pricing has been a complete ripoff B They haven't all been that great to use for web surfing ( some phones are better than others) C web surfing has been very slow on 2G and 2 . 5G networks and uneconomical on a mobile device - until now . On a closing note, mobile broadband IS becoming a replacement or a least a companion to fixed line broad band use . Now it is a matter of bringing the user plans and data caps up into line with usage . For the record - you guys will be selling the iPhone shortly - not a Windows Mobile device . . . so expect a noticeable jump in web and wifi use . Or how about "Vodafone; bend over and take it, we're gentler than telecom, and we'll cuddle you afterwards" Nice one vodafone . Ouch! :eek: |
vitalstatistix (9182) | ||
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