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Thread ID: 90632	2008-06-10 20:28:00	Rob Pope is an idiot (Police Response time)	Digby (677)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
677326	2008-06-11 00:30:00	I am more disgusted with the scumbags that came into the shop AFTER the guy had been shot and stole from the shop while the guy was there lying on the floor dying. Those people are just as disgusting as the d******ds who did the shooting. You can relax, from the NZHerald "One man bought a pack of premixed drinks. Police initially said the man stole the drinks during the commotion, but the surveillance film shows him placing money on the counter before leaving with the drinks."	PaulD (232)
677327	2008-06-11 00:37:00	Hmmm my bad, I take my anger back. And redeliver it to the original thugs.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
677328	2008-06-11 00:39:00	Every police tv drama I have ever seen, the police rush in and do something, not hang around waiting for clearance from head office. I said the police should have gone in, not the ambos ! ! ! That's TV for you! Plus even if that was the case ever noticed the cops on TV have weapons, the first responders in New Zealand are generally unarmed.	stormdragon (6013)
677329	2008-06-11 00:52:00	That's TV for you! Plus even if that was the case ever noticed the cops on TV have weapons, the first responders in New Zealand are generally unarmed. Every cop car has two glocks in the back, and sergeants cars have rifles and bullet proof vests. I think the armed offenders should have escorted the ambulance in, flush the building out and then get them in. But it's easy to say that with the benefit of hindsight. The thing about criminals is that they don't follow a standard operating procedure... so you can't really make guesses for individual crimes. You've just got to move carefully and expect the worst.	Thebananamonkey (7741)
677330	2008-06-11 00:56:00	Now, people ring you to say there has just been a shooting, are you going to rush in without taking precautions? Thats how people end up dead. According to the interview on TV the person who called the ambulance was in a car park, not in the shop. And even if he was, gunmen may hide in many areas, other shops, etc.	pctek (84)
677331	2008-06-11 00:59:00	Yea, I just hate how our tv reporters set the tone .... they are getting just as bad as politicians in my eyes, they think they are experts on everything...	rob_on_guitar (4196)
677332	2008-06-11 01:18:00	Perhaps if these scum bags were taken care of earlier in the career as criminals they wouldn't be in a position to be killing Indians? I'll eat my hat if those ****bags haven't spent the last 10 years breaking the law as often as possible.	Metla (12)
677333	2008-06-11 01:25:00	Until we are allowed to defend ourselves without being charged for doing so, until we are allowed the rights as victims, and until we are allowed to severely limit the luxuries a criminal can receive, thugs will keep finding New Zealand a haven, time and time again.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
677334	2008-06-11 01:38:00	Until we are allowed to defend ourselves without being charged for doing so, until we are allowed the rights as victims, and until we are allowed to severely limit the luxuries a criminal can receive, thugs will keep finding New Zealand a haven, time and time again. True. And the cops have been saying for years for people to co-operate , give them what they want and you will be OK. Well that turned out to be wrong now and in the case of a ASB robery about 5 years ago.. Off course when these S..ts are cought they will get the best public defender / QC that tax payers money can buy to try and get them off..	paulw (1826)
677335	2008-06-11 01:49:00	I wonder why someone at the scene did not put the victim in their car and rush him to hospital. Surely they would realise that he was in a bad way? If he went in the right direction he would have come across the ambos and they would have taken over - the wrong direction and he would have ended up in hospital. Anything would have been better than waiting even if the police and ambos had been called or not. He may still be alive had someone taken positive action.	Roscoe (6288)
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