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| Thread ID: 90836 | 2008-06-17 21:38:00 | Eco Bulbs - Greens Incandescant Ban Sucks | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 679571 | 2008-06-19 03:48:00 | I say seize Great Barrier Island, Built a humongous nuclear plant on one end, and a humongous prison on the other end and have a big cable connecting it to the national Grid and a 5 mile exclusion zone that way if prisoners escape they can't go anywhere and if anything goes wrong with the plant we'll be able to pay for the cleanup with the money wasted on feeding the prisoners and pandering to their whims Awesome. + Free labour for the nuclear plant. Who gives a damn if they all die of radiation poisoning! |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 679572 | 2008-06-19 04:04:00 | Ok, mercury in my fillings is "inert" and stays put. Is the other stuff (when I open a thermometer by percussive stunts) "ert" and so has earned itself the name of quicksilver? Would "ertness" be a handy skill for netballers and land agents? |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 679573 | 2008-06-19 05:32:00 | R2x1, mercury in fillings doesn't stay put. It slowly leaks out and you breath it in. I thought the mercury in CFLs was in the gas tube, how can it be made inert? |
GoodHour (12218) | ||
| 679574 | 2008-06-19 05:41:00 | Awesome. + Free labour for the nuclear plant. Who gives a damn if they all die of radiation poisoning! Why would they die of radiation poisoning or are you being an alarmist..?? |
paulw (1826) | ||
| 679575 | 2008-06-19 05:44:00 | Why would they die of radiation poisoning or are you being an alarmist..?? They almost certainly wouldn't. But if anything was to 'go wrong'....oh dear, all the crims die! :D |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 679576 | 2008-06-19 05:58:00 | Quite interesting article on fluorescent lamps here: en.wikipedia.org Clearly CFTs are different from the ghastly long tube type of fluorescent lamps. Loss of mercury Mercury is slowly absorbed into glass, phosphor, and tube electrodes throughout the lamp life, where it can no longer function. Newer lamps now have just enough mercury to last the expected life of the lamp. Loss of mercury will take over from failure of the phosphor in some lamps. The failure symptoms are similar, except loss of mercury initially causes an extended run-up time to full light output, and finally causes the lamp to glow a dim pink when the mercury runs out and the argon base gas takes over as the primary discharge. There is also a good section on disposal and recycling - too long to post here. |
John H (8) | ||
| 679577 | 2008-06-19 06:11:00 | Ok, mercury in my fillings is "inert" and stays put. Is the other stuff (when I open a thermometer by percussive stunts) "ert" and so has earned itself the name of quicksilver? Would "ertness" be a handy skill for netballers and land agents? EERRRRKKKK...... Yes, the mercury in your thermometer is "ert"! Don't drink it! Or breathe it. It is in a free uncontaminated form - basically pure. But in fact, your home thermometer probably contains alcohol or something other then mercury. Mercury is expensive and ever so slightly toxic..... :D |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 679578 | 2008-06-19 06:23:00 | R2x1, mercury in fillings doesn't stay put. It slowly leaks out and you breath it in. No. Well - maybe. Nobody can agree. Most of it stays put. I thought the mercury in CFLs was in the gas tube, how can it be made inert? An excellent question which has been exercising my mind this afternoon. :D Don't know. Inert mercury doesn't make much sense because mercury in a lighting tube essentially acts like the filament in an incandescent bulb. It heats up, emits UV light, which hits the phosphorus coating and yields visible light. Now - if the mercury is bonded to another atom (and thus inert), it isn't going to be interested in leaping up and down levels of energy and producing photons. Instead it will have exchanged electrons with something else and be living happily ever after. Is this the moment to draw parallels with exchanging bodily fluids....?? Admin? Uh....No. What does appear to be happening is that new bulbs use the minimum mercury possible and it bonds with the glass eventually. One side effect is these bulbs have a shorter effective life. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 679579 | 2008-06-19 06:25:00 | While some of you are becoming alarmed about traces of Mercury, I’m laughing, as my Grandmother used it as a cure for Constipation. :dogeye: Yes, one ounce :dogeye: was the recommended dose. If you don’t believe me have a look at this link. chestofbooks.com Strange thing is none of the family were unhealthy and a lot lived into their nineties. I think it’s breathing that is really unhealthy. ;) |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 679580 | 2008-06-19 06:55:00 | I have been told that halogens won't be banned, just the incandescents. Saw a bulb today at the electrical wholesalers, it was basically a halogen fitting (like what you find in desk lamps) encased in "incandescent style" glass, looked quite neat. The boss man also assured me that "they" (whoever "they" are) would be bringing out CFL's in all the styles that incandescents come in at the moment, such as "candle" style and small bayonet, small screw type etc etc. |
pine-o-cleen (2955) | ||
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