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| Thread ID: 90836 | 2008-06-17 21:38:00 | Eco Bulbs - Greens Incandescant Ban Sucks | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 679531 | 2008-06-18 02:04:00 | The only thing that annoys me is that i do think the Govt needs to address the recycling issue. Standard fluorescent tubes also have mercury in them, have you been annoyed for years? |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 679532 | 2008-06-18 02:45:00 | I'm a bit irritated too but time will tell. We are told the new bulbs use less mercury and a recycling system will be set up. Hard to argue with bulbs which use less power - and I note quite a few people here have already switched. The bulbs seem a bit weak in brightness to me and the 23w ones cost 5x an incandescent. I also think as a society we need to limit commercial lighting and move to efficent streetlighting. Interesting Auckland Harbour Board have already done this. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 679533 | 2008-06-18 03:45:00 | I'm a bit irritated too but time will tell. We are told the new bulbs use less mercury and a recycling system will be set up. Actually the paper today said they used to have more mercury in them therefore it was worth recycling them but now its less and it makes it uneconomical. So I bet they just get dumped. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 679534 | 2008-06-18 03:47:00 | All greens should just stick to what they know: smoking dope and eating cookies. | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 679535 | 2008-06-18 04:17:00 | Standard fluorescent tubes also have mercury in them, have you been annoyed for years? No because until this debate came up I had no idea what was in them:D, It just seems a bit hypocritical of the government to extol the virtues of something that is supposed to be good for the environment etc and make us purchase them (which i already have and do anyway) when there is the issue with the mercury and the need to recycle them and that doesn't seem to be being addressed (or is it and I have missed the boat somewhere) |
Morgenmuffel (187) | ||
| 679536 | 2008-06-18 04:48:00 | Actually, there are two 'colours' that I know of. "Cool White" is the slightly yellow one which IMO is preferable in most situations. Similar colour to standard incandescent lamps. "Cool Daylight" is the bluish one which is supposedly better for working on things like paintings where you want it to look the same under your lighting as it will do outside. They usually tell you which colour it is on the box. I don't think it's anything to do with cheapness. :) we have "Warm White" and "Daylight" here as well as some real el-cheapos are are a really cold light (chills your beer type cold), i always tend to buy the warm white I hope the Government is going to enforce some sort of NZ standard based on the Lumens & the colour temperature, otherwise we will end up with all sorts of airy fairy names that are misleading, i reckon that if there was a clear standard then some of the stigma about the cold , blue light would be dispelled, I mean Daylight is a bit of a meaningless term, i don't tend to think of daylight as being colder and bluer than a normal bulb, I realise the incandescents have a yellowish cast, but well it doesn't seem right. |
Morgenmuffel (187) | ||
| 679537 | 2008-06-18 05:32:00 | I don't really like the idea of the CFLs, sure they save energy and last longer - but at the expense of costing more, using more materials and using hazardous materials. I think staying with the old type and getting more effecient and cleaner power sources makes more sense |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 679538 | 2008-06-18 05:53:00 | I think staying with the old type and getting more effecient and cleaner power sources makes more sense Impossible, the Greenies want clean renewable power, but they oppose windfarms and hydro schemes and if solar ever becomes realistic in NZ they'd probably oppose that too, I say seize Great Barrier Island, Built a humongous nuclear plant on one end, and a humongous prison on the other end and have a big cable connecting it to the national Grid and a 5 mile exclusion zone that way if prisoners escape they can't go anywhere and if anything goes wrong with the plant we'll be able to pay for the cleanup with the money wasted on feeding the prisoners and pandering to their whims |
Morgenmuffel (187) | ||
| 679539 | 2008-06-18 06:16:00 | Then you can make all the lightbulbs out of nuclear waste and not even need power to run them! they'll glow green all night long :D But seriously, I don't see what's wrong with solar, wind and water power.... sounds like the best way, to me |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 679540 | 2008-06-18 06:22:00 | As well as The Press this am saying that there was much less mercury in the current generation of bulbs, it said that the mercury was now inert, as though that was somehow better. Is there someone here who can express an informed opinion on the respective merits of inert mercury and whatever kind of mercury existed in the previous generation of bulbs? Is it safer for the environment, as the paper seemed to imply? |
John H (8) | ||
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