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810030	2009-09-14 10:30:00	The slowest i5 is faster than the i7 920.... www.hardwaresecrets.com Core i7 will continue to be the CPU of choice for the professional user working with rendering and image processing and the new socket 1156 promises to give far more options of CPU and motherboard models to choose from in the future. Core i5 provides a better cost/benefit ratio than Core i7. It is true that Core i7 is faster than Core i5 even when we compare a Core i7 and a Core i5 running at the same clock rate as we did in our review, thanks to the Hyper-Threading technology that makes programs to “see” eight CPU cores instead of “only” four, but this difference in performance will be only worthwhile to professionals because a faster processing means more work done in less time, and thus more jobs for their clients and hence more money. We don’t see why a regular user would pay at least 45% more on a CPU that won’t give that much performance increase in return. Both Core i7 800-series processors support hyperthreading the same as their Core i7 900-series brethren. The Core i5 750 does not-its four physical cores are all that will appear in your operating system's task manager.	pctek (84)
810031	2009-09-14 11:57:00	anandtech.com For $196 you're getting a processor that's faster than the Core i7 920. I'm not taking into account motherboard prices either, which are anywhere from $50 - $100 cheaper for LGA-1156 boards. I don't believe LGA-1366 is dead, but there's absolutely no reason to buy anything slower than a 965 if you're going that route.	Blam (54)
810032	2009-09-14 15:28:00	With respect to the WD harddrives then I can only agree that WD is a good choice , but drop the "go green" here , atleast for the boot drive , and go with Caviar Black. With respect to Caviar Black then the 640GB and 500GB might be faster than the 750GB and the 1TB as internal transfer speed is lower on the 750GB and 1TB plus they are 2 seconds slower in wakeup. Money wise the "sweet spot" seems to be at 1TB at the moment for Caviar Black. (The 2TB got twice the case of the other models + greater internal transfer speed , but is up in price + slow in wakeup) WD CB Ref. 1. (www.wdc.com) WD CB Ref. 2. (products.wdc.com)	FIAT LUX (15168)
810033	2009-09-14 21:45:00	Once I move in, it will probably just be me in my apartment, at least initially.. so only one PC needs to access the data. Would you still suggest NAS over the traditional set-up? Why?? NAS is good if you what constant file access without the worry of having it attached to your pc. Many gamers like to clock cpu etc, run the PC out of spec so to speak...A share of drives attached to your router is a great idea, with no power fluctuations, boot up's, hung PC cycled etc.....its just a better setup than having all your storage in the pc...	SolMiester (139)
810034	2009-09-16 12:08:00	So I'll probably look at the i5 750, or maybe even the i7 860 or i7 870 if they are a reasonable price (which I doubt!) Any decent motherboards that people would recommend for those CPU's? I know Asus or Gigabyte are good brands, but any particular models? A quick Google search doesn't seem to reveal a lot by way or recommendations...	Chikara (5139)
810035	2009-09-16 12:47:00	The i7 860 are around $500... ASUS P7P55D LE or Gigabyte P55 UD4 (motherboard)	Blam (54)
810036	2009-09-17 06:14:00	Hi again, thanks for the suggestions and feedback so far. After reading people's thoughts here and in other threads, and doing some more research, here is what I am currently thinking. Looking to order it next week. Would love your thoughts on if this looks good or bad, or if I have missed anything, or if there's any obvious bottlenecks or incompatibilities: Case: Whatever, i'm not fussed as long as it all fits CPU: i5 750 or i7 860 (will confirm when I see final prices) MB: Asus P7P55D LE HD: WD Caviar Black 640GB (for OS and applications) HD: WD Caviar Green 1.5TB x2 (RAID1 for data) PSU: Corsair 650W GPU: Asus or Gigabyte 4870 or 4890 RAM: Corsair 8GB DDR2 DVD/CD: Asus or Liteon, not fussed, any model that can read/burn CD/DVD Monitor: Viewsonic 22" VX 2260 Keyboard: Logitech something with backlighting - wired & USB Mouse: Logitech wired USB, not sure model Speakers: Logitech X-530 OS: Win 7 64bit (will run Win 7 64bit RC meantime) I decided against NAS, as I 've never used it before and couldn't really see the benefits for me as a single user, compared to the traditional setup above...but again I am prepared to be convinced otherwise! Also, I decided agains a SSD, at this stage I don't think it is worth it yet - maybe if prices drop in the future and capacity increases, I can swap out the Caviar HDD then. I'm probably going to spend a bit more than I originally planned, but that's okay - my old system has lasted a lot longer than I planned, so my logic to justify it, is the money I've saved by not upgrading earlier, can go towards this now :) Some final questions please: - Have I missed anything? - I'm not planning on overclocking to start with (maybe later on) - should I get any extra cooling to start with? - As all this is new hardware, I'm assuming there shouldn't be any problems with getting 64bit drivers? - Is it worth getting DDR3 RAM? Or just stick with DDR2? Also what speed RAM is best? - There seem to be about 5 variations of that motherboard (LE, Pro, Deluxe, etc etc). To be honest, apart from the cost I can't see a heck of a lot of difference..is the LE fine for my needs? - Later on, I may get a soundcard. I do a lot of audio recording through line-in (converting old concert recordings on cassette via line in) so if the quality isn't what I want with the on-board sound, I'll but a dedicated sound card later. Any problems with doing this, with this setup? - Also later on, I may get a TV tuner..looks like I will have sufficient room for expansion, including the above, am I right? Thanks in advance :)	Chikara (5139)
810037	2009-09-17 06:25:00	The drivers for the mobo should be on the ASUS site. However, depending on what else youre going to connect to it, check the manufacturer's site, BEFORE you buy whatever. Even if its new, it doesnt mean everyone is going to make 64 bit drivers for it Depends what the mobo takes (if you get the Asus P7P55D LE). It looks like this mobo only supports DDR3 (not DDR2 ram). So, you'll have to get DDR 3. The Pro and deluxe probably have extras like SPDIF digital out / firewire or E-sata as well. Depends if you want or need these	Speedy Gonzales (78)
810038	2009-09-17 06:59:00	definitely go the i7 860, thats what im gettin in a couple of weeks with the Asus P7P55D EVO	hueybot3000 (3646)
810039	2009-09-17 08:26:00	I decided against NAS, as I 've never used it before and couldn't really see the benefits for me as a single user, compared to the traditional setup above...but again I am prepared to be convinced otherwise! Also, I decided agains a SSD, at this stage I don't think it is worth it yet - maybe if prices drop in the future and capacity increases, I can swap out the Caviar HDD then. I'm probably going to spend a bit more than I originally planned, but that's okay - my old system has lasted a lot longer than I planned, so my logic to justify it, is the money I've saved by not upgrading earlier, can go towards this now :) Some final questions please: - Have I missed anything? - I'm not planning on overclocking to start with (maybe later on) - should I get any extra cooling to start with? - As all this is new hardware, I'm assuming there shouldn't be any problems with getting 64bit drivers? - Is it worth getting DDR3 RAM? Or just stick with DDR2? Also what speed RAM is best? - There seem to be about 5 variations of that motherboard (LE, Pro, Deluxe, etc etc). To be honest, apart from the cost I can't see a heck of a lot of difference..is the LE fine for my needs? - Later on, I may get a soundcard. I do a lot of audio recording through line-in (converting old concert recordings on cassette via line in) so if the quality isn't what I want with the on-board sound, I'll but a dedicated sound card later. Any problems with doing this, with this setup? - Also later on, I may get a TV tuner..looks like I will have sufficient room for expansion, including the above, am I right? Thanks in advance :) Here's a link that has info on upgrading RC to RTM, when the time comes: www.askvg.com Don't bother with cooling if you don't intend to overclock now, by the time you do decide to move to OC'ing coolers will be cheaper and better. Most of the hardware will probably work fine, as 64bit driver support is improving(ever since vista) Get DDR3 because: 1) Its really not that much more expensive that DDR2 2) Your motherboard only supports DDR3 3) i7 is made for dual channel DDR3 memory...works best with it As for differences between the mobo versions, heres one's you might want to know -LE doesn't have firewire, and has one less SATA port -LE has only one PCIe 2.0 x16 slot, the other runs at only x4 and will be slower if you decide to go with crossfire later on -LE supports crossfire only-no SLI -Doesn't have a TPM(Security stuff) and hardware overclocking(don't worry, you can still OC) IMO get the Pro if its only little bit extra, you'll get better GFX performance and you'll also get firewire...but if its alot more then stick with the LE The Asus mobo will easily handle both in the PCI slots. Plenty of room! Blam	Blam (54)
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