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| Thread ID: 103116 | 2009-09-13 00:22:00 | Installing to D Not C drive | gary67 (56) | Press F1 |
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| 809615 | 2009-09-14 03:10:00 | You will lose any registry entries, start menu shortcuts etc You may also have to delete the old programs before you reinstall them, I did a repair install on my windows XP once, when I tried to reinstall programs, the installers would go nuts because everything was already there in the folder, yet according to XP registry, the program was not installed |
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| 809616 | 2009-09-14 05:36:00 | As I suspected so why do people install programs separate to the OS? | gary67 (56) | ||
| 809617 | 2009-09-14 06:05:00 | Better performance than having programs + windows + pagefile all on the same drive Also, you could easily upgrade the "programs" drive to a bigger one without having to reinstall windows. Only things I can think of |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 809618 | 2009-09-15 02:17:00 | Having a (smallish) separate system partition also allows easy backup by imaging the partition. If you have your data & progs stored/installed elsewhere it is very easy to go back to a recent image in case of probs. Sort of like "System Restore" but actually works! |
fred_fish (15241) | ||
| 809619 | 2009-09-15 06:17:00 | Welcome to PF1 Fred fish, I already use Acronis and do daily backups of my whole system but good point | gary67 (56) | ||
| 809620 | 2009-09-15 06:45:00 | Cheers. Been lurking for a while, just signed up. The image backup is ideal for system partitions as it gets the whole 'state' of the system. The problem is that restoring it nukes everything since your last backup which is not so good for constantly changing data. I prefer to keep my data on a separate partition and do incremental file based backups of that. That way you can easily pull previous versions of single files to restore. It is easy in most Linux dists with a separate /home partition but is also quite achievable in windows. |
fred_fish (15241) | ||
| 809621 | 2009-09-15 07:56:00 | Yeah I have an OS partition and a data partition now and just image them once an week and then daily incremental backups so hopefully always up to date | gary67 (56) | ||
| 809622 | 2009-09-16 12:27:00 | When you have installed your W7, make an Image of it with a back up programme, I use Acronis but there are many, Norton 12, paragon etc. This way you should be able to restore the system in a few minutes. You will also be able to disable 'System restore' which wastes space & stores malware etc. You should only have to install Windows once. I have just restored Vista on a Lap top, it took 15 minutes, including all software. |
mzee (3324) | ||
| 809623 | 2009-09-16 19:45:00 | I already use Acronis on this XP machine and both the other ones in the house, was just wondering why people install programs to another partition and what benifits if any there were, which it seems there isn't really it's just personal choice | gary67 (56) | ||
| 809624 | 2009-09-16 21:37:00 | I already use Acronis on this XP machine and both the other ones in the house Great to see how many people that uses (understands the value of) backup around here . was just wondering why people install programs to another partition and what benifits if any there were, which it seems there isn't really it's just personal choice Back in time when drives were smaller it were more often used as people simply didn't have the drive C: capacity . Nowadays You might be able to use "Installing to D Not C drive" as some sort of "trick" if you want to use more than one "installations"/"setups" on drive C: and you wanted to save time making and loading different partition C: image based harddrive backups, then you could for speed reasons on one of the C: "installations"/"setups" install the programs to D: if you did not need the programs on the other C: "installation"/"setup" . Doing so might enable you to take a smaller image based harddrive backup of the C: "installation"/"setup" partition where programs were installed to D: . (all this if you wanted to use 2 "installations"/"setups" on drive C: and switch C: "installation"/"setup" through loading harddrive-images)(With small enough amount of data on a drive C: partition + using the right software + haveing fast enough harddrive/s one can load an XP backup in a couple of minutes or less? - which makes switching O . S . blazingly fast!) However , it should be duely noticed that one has to be aware of the (as far as I know undocumented or not widely known) fact that M . S . Windows when booting (sometimes?) looks for certain folders on other drives and one can make a real mess of things if not knowing this (one only finds out if one notices that something has gone wrong!!!) - I've seen some pretty weird stuff with M . S . Windows in my time !!! Generally the principles I myself apply(/applied) and recommend(ed) is(were) to put the O . S . plus all programs that one would want installed onto drive C: and take image based harddrive backup(s) of that . And then put or keep much of the "personal content" that one just want "laying around on the harddrive" (pictures sound and movie files, ecetera) on another partition . I then use(d) and recommend(ed) the priciple to understand what "personal content" on drive C: that changes and then take a file backup to optical storage (CD/DVD) of that once in a while . This also because most people don't understand how to take backups or use them and because I always (did) recommend to make atleast one complete image based partition C: backup to "optical storage" in case of hardware breakdowns/loss . Nowadays however one has acess to high speed external storage devices , such as USB attached harddrives and partitions/installations has grown so big (plus newer software with newer capabilities has arrived) that it's often preferred to keep one or more backup on internal drives and the same to external drives . (thus having a copy in case of any of the drives breakdown) . Also nowadays Internet Service Providers (and other companies) often provide people with the opportunity to use internet based storage and sometimes also equip people with accompanying to-internet-backupsoftware that people can install and use to have taken constantly backup of alterered personal drive C: content in the background wheter they know how to use this or understand it or not (that is once it is installed and running), then if they got a "basic" image based drive C: backup they got their stuff backed-up and only needs assistance in case of breakdowns (if they do not understand how to use the backups - optical/USB/internet/whatever) . Ofcourse it should go without saying that if one keeps "personal content" (pictures sound and movie files, ecetera) on another partition than drive C: then one ofcourse should make a backup of that if one wants to be sure not to loose it . Personally I will however "change strategy" as the the emergence of Microsoft Windows Home Server makes it possible to have all drive C: patitions backed-up automatically over home-network . This will minimize the workload of having to making extra backup to external storage and combined with on-computer-kept-one-time-backup and periodical, to optical storage, backup of "important personal content" I think that would be an "OK" "solution" . For those of you that do not know this then Microsoft offers 25GB of free webspace (called "Skydrive ( . live . com/)") to people in connection with Windows Live ID . (max file size=50MB) Once one understand how to use it one can transfer large amount of files to "Skydrive (http://skydrive . live . com/" target="_blank">skydrive . live . com/)") to people in connection with Windows Live ID . (max file size=50MB) Once one understand how to use it one can transfer large amount of files to "Skydrive (http:)" . ("Skydrive (http://skydrive . live . com/)" does at present not support "folder backup" but only "file backup") . |
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