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Thread ID: 91055 2008-06-24 21:04:00 Claims Sweep (90) PC World Chat
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682064 2008-06-25 02:26:00 Don't let the facts get in the way of a bigoted rant of course.

If it is down to your Tory mates, the claims are set to be barred a few years from now. I forget when - ask John Key and see whether he can remember his last answer.
John H (8)
682065 2008-06-25 02:31:00 Exactly. Facts. Seems you dont need them to get a claim these days... rob_on_guitar (4196)
682066 2008-06-25 02:49:00 Definition of a scam: "Anything good that you're not in on yourself" johcar (6283)
682067 2008-06-25 03:11:00 Exactly. Facts. Seems you dont need them to get a claim these days...

You obviously haven't read any of the Waitangi Tribunal reports then, and clearly don't understand all of the research that goes into claims from both the Crown and the claimant.
John H (8)
682068 2008-06-25 03:15:00 Research of what??

It's pointless money grabbing. Good on them for trying but enough is enough.
rob_on_guitar (4196)
682069 2008-06-25 04:32:00 Research of what??

It's pointless money grabbing. Good on them for trying but enough is enough.

Take a risk with your closed mind, and read a Waitangi Tribunal report, rob. It is a waste of time debating any of this with you and others who haven't taken the trouble to read any of the reports, and to learn about what drives these claims. It is anything but pointless.
John H (8)
682070 2008-06-25 05:24:00 It IS pointless when the huge settlements don't go to benefit the people the settlement is supposedly being claimed for.

And no-one ever moved forward by looking backwards.
johcar (6283)
682071 2008-06-25 05:52:00 It IS pointless when the huge settlements don't go to benefit the people the settlement is supposedly being claimed for.

And no-one ever moved forward by looking backwards.

Tell that to Ngai Tahu. And if you don't look backwards as you are moving forwards, you don't learn from the mistakes of history.
John H (8)
682072 2008-06-25 06:12:00 Tell that to Ngai Tahu. And if you don't look backwards as you are moving forwards, you don't learn from the mistakes of history.

So where does the money go anyway?

The facts are that Maori on a percentage basis per head of population are still well up on the bad statistics like crime, education and health for example.
Sweep (90)
682073 2008-06-25 09:29:00 Tell that to Ngai Tahu. And if you don't look backwards as you are moving forwards, you don't learn from the mistakes of history.

What about the Tuhoe tribe for example whom apparently did not sign the Treaty of Waitangi.

www.nzhistory.net.nz

And, as usual, there are various interpretations of text. This is why we have lawyers to explain what was really meant at the time.
Sweep (90)
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