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Thread ID: 90918 2008-06-20 03:26:00 Oil use in a new car AvonBill (11358) PC World Chat
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680532 2008-06-21 04:09:00 what brand and spec oil is being used in it?

Good question!

Liquefied chicken fat or some other snake oil will void the warrantee...make sure that you have the name brand, viscosity and any additives that you use in your records.

Wrong oil viscosity can kill an engine fast.
SurferJoe46 (51)
680533 2008-06-21 06:04:00 It's not typical for the Japanese cars to use oil at all...


That's a quart in 3728.23 miles..and WELL WITHIN the standards of Toyota.


Bit full of oil are ya?
timaru2007 (12408)
680534 2008-06-21 06:07:00 I would say a brand new one has unknown consumption since it hasn't done any KM's yet ;) R2x1 (4628)
680535 2008-06-21 09:36:00 Ford dealers spin the line that 1 litre of oil per 1000km is acceptable oil consumption, year, right . Like if it were the aforementioned Ford dealers wife's car, the figures would quickly err the other way .

So, if and when you trot up to the Service / Warranty desk, keep that in mind .

Speaking from over 30 years experience with petrol engines, regular oil & filter changes are the secret to oil tight engines . When I say regular, I mean no more than 10,000km apart .

Personally, with two new cars in the household over the past 3yrs, I service them myself with cheap discount oil packs (Star 4lt oil packs from the Red Shed), using Ryco oil filters from Repco . Change oil & filter every 10K .

Ive run engines for years and years with re-refined oil, and upon removing the rocker cover, no noticeable trace of undue engine wear .

Another thing you could do, is read NZ Consumer item on Engine Oils, that came out about 10yrs ago . I think they reported from a US test on top, so called Performance Oils against cheaper oils and re-refined oils in US Taxis for a fixed mileage, then stripped down the engines . NO noticeable difference between any of them . If you are a member of NZ Consumer you can ask them to send you he issue number of that article .

My only other comment regarding oils, as I learned by attending the Brass Monkey many years ago, though this applies to Motorcycle with generally weaker batteries, if you are exposed to minus overnight temps, use a 10W oil in winter .

Not doing so, will cause much harder starting . Like Ive seen motorcycle engines repeatedly lock their back wheel in real cold, when bump started . Your trying to force oil with the consistancy of cold treacle through the oil pump and oil galleries, not to mention excessive straining of the oil pump shaft / chain drive . Entertainment for sure first thing Sunday morning at the Brass Monkey site .
John W (523)
680536 2008-06-21 10:18:00 What on earth can you see/tell by removing just the rocker cover? Big ends, mains, rings, oil pump, straight 10 grade oil? Think you might have missed a paragraph somewhere . BobM (1138)
680537 2008-06-22 06:08:00 Who cares? Its brand new - take it back and ask for another one.

they will not give you another one. most likly they will be told its normall or whatever bullsh*t reason to get them out of the door and then when motor goes bang they will say they where useing the wrong oil or other bullsh*t reason to avoid a warranty claim :(

wrong grade or type can do very bad things to some vechiles.
eg with some new motors do not use sythetic oil. the rings won't bed in properly and you end up useing oil. do the first 5-20tho K's with mineral oil.
some of the new emmision regs means the cars have to use special oils otherwise they foul up the emmision systems which in bad cases can cause excessive temps and melted pistons !
tweak'e (69)
680538 2008-06-22 22:22:00 Would you say that a brand new Toyota Corolla that uses 1 litre of oil every 6000km is using too much oil?

Assuming you have gone through more than one oil change to verify this consumption, your Corolla is not "brand new" anymore. That doesn't alter your rights in the matter, but the time to complain was after the first or second warranty service when you saw how much oil they had put in.

From your description you have done at least 12,000ks so it sounds to me like there's more to this story that you have told so far. Is it in commercial use, did you treat it gently for the first few thousand k's, are you a courier (all bets are off), what else don't we know?

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
680539 2008-06-22 22:45:00 And why are you not in India,will the questions never end.? Cicero (40)
680540 2008-06-23 00:05:00 Where is Avonbill with some answers.??????????
:)
Trev (427)
680541 2008-06-23 00:07:00 Are we there yet? R2x1 (4628)
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