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Thread ID: 91055 2008-06-24 21:04:00 Claims Sweep (90) PC World Chat
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682194 2008-06-30 03:46:00 Can we deduct 1 million dollars for every murder a Maori person commits.

And could they please set up a fund that pays out in full, victims restoration and hurt etc to all crime committed by Maoris.

Well that fund would run out awful quick! 		beeswax34 (63)
682195 2008-06-30 05:16:00 Could we all get back to the point of this thread please?

I do not blame all Maori for all crime even though the race as a whole appears to be over represented in prisons and all I really want to know is how the claims help Maori in general as to making the bad statistics better.

Also I would like to know where all the money goes and do any Maori actually benefit or is it all sucked up by lawyers and/or civil servants.

From my research I can not yet find the truth and I have got to the stage where I find I may have to give up altogether.

Now if any person here can help then please educate me! 		Sweep (90)
682196 2008-06-30 05:39:00 Ok, lets do.

It doesnt help at all- Never has, never will.

Sucked up, wasted, booze, hangi's etc.

Give up or you'll go crazy.

Nothing to educate about. 		beeswax34 (63)
682197 2008-06-30 05:47:00 Not only are the paybacks having no effect on the criminal behaviour, But the billions upon billions spent on race based services for health, education and crime have resulted in nothing, They still go out of their way to fail, die and steal your gear.

Meanwhile everyone else is supposed to shoulder not only the cost but also the blame.

Obviously not all Maori are criminals, But they are so overly represented in crime that its not anyone else's fault they are viewed in a bad light. 		Metla (12)
682198 2008-06-30 06:34:00 Ok, lets do.

It doesnt help at all- Never has, never will.

Sucked up, wasted, booze, hangi's etc.

Give up or you'll go crazy.

Nothing to educate about.

I would like all citizens to paddle the waka in roughly the same direction otherwise NZ will keep going in ever diminishing circles and I don't think that will help the nation as a whole.

The whole thing is that some claims are not helping the people that need it most and also divides in my opinion.

And Beeswax I do not blame one race for all crime and nor should I.

Not planning in getting to a mental hospital real soon now as the populace seem to have very few now. Some people may belong in such a place and maybe I even deserve this. Well some on PressF1 may think so. 		Sweep (90)
682199 2008-06-30 10:16:00 In actual fact, the Crown has been on the gravy train for quite some time and has given a few scraps from the side of the plate to try and heal over the past injustices.

What injustices? 		legod (4626)
682200 2008-06-30 10:31:00 How much money did the Maori lose?



None cos they never had any in the first place? 		legod (4626)
682201 2008-07-01 15:46:00 I took some time today to talk to some Maori who happen to live where I do.

Found some at WINZ and others at the TAB along with some others along other streets. I might add that all not at WINZ or TAB were Maori but they appeared to be in the majority of the people who were present.

Not one admitted to getting a benefit from treaty claims and not one admitted to having a relative in prison. One I spoke to was very obese and works for WINZ and I had seen her before.

Back to heath possibly? I could do very much the same over the next two week but this time take my camera and actually prove the issue. 		Sweep (90)
682202 2008-07-01 15:54:00 Just watch that Mongrel Mob program with Ross Kemp, its a perfect example of how a few ruin it for the rest of them, those gang ******** blame everyone except for themselves for how they are. rob_on_guitar (4196)
682203 2008-07-01 16:59:00 I did watch said program some time back Rob.

But as I try to say here I do not blame all Maori for all claims or all crimes for that matter.

I am trying to ask how the average Maori benefits for all the cash or land handed over by taxpayers whom also include Maori who do work.

If you read the other posts I made in this thread you may notice this I would hope.

Having done some research into this matter then I would suggest the Crown in New Zealand was not totally responsible for all injustices.

There is the matter of a few companies whom also may have liability rather than the New Zealand citizens as a whole nation. This should include all people including all other races no matter where they came from and regardless of where the ancestors came from. Born in NZ or otherwise as the case may be.

Then of course there is the question as to why the Maori seem to be over represented in the rather bad statistics given that the present generations appear to be paying regardless of where they came from. I still can not find out where the money goes but I intend to investigate somewhat more even though I will not benefit personally. 		Sweep (90)
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